Kudos to Veach and the OL

[staylor26]

Imagine if you have a different GM and they don't trade up for McDuffie, and the Bills end up with him instead.

All it takes are a couple of differences like that, and we're in a totally different position today.

It's an absolute slap in the face to pretend there are more than 2-3 guys that could achieve what Veach has here, even with Pat and Andy.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Imagine if you have a different GM and they don't trade up for McDuffie, and the Bills end up with him instead.

All it takes are a couple of differences like that, and we're in a totally different position today.

It's an absolute slap in the face to pretend there are more than 2-3 guys that could achieve what Veach has here, even with Pat and Andy.

When they played the Bengals in the Championship game, Sneed got hurt in the first series. McDuffie proceeded to have an excellent tackle for 1 yard on a screen to Chase, had a pass defended that's should have been a pick and then defended a pass that was going to be a first down but he improvised and jumped in the throwing lane.

They targeted McDuffie only 2 more times the entire game. Imagine if that was Elam there instead of McDuffie?

Yeah..

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

When they played the Bengals in the Championship game, Sneed got hurt in the first series. McDuffie proceeded to have an excellent tackle for 1 yard on a screen to Chase, had a pass defended that's should have been a pick and then defended a pass that was going to be a first down but he improvised and jumped in the throwing lane.

They targeted McDuffie only 2 more times the entire game. Imagine if that was Elam there instead of McDuffie?

Yeah..

Or if Pat was throwing it to Higgins instead of handing it off to CEH?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

Or if Pat was throwing it to Higgins instead of handing it off to CEH?

We can play that game all day with all of these GMs. Nobody is perfect. That's not the point.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

We can play that game all day with all of these GMs. Nobody is perfect. That's not the point.

There is no point. The only way to win is not to play

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Or if Pat was throwing it to Higgins instead of handing it off to CEH?

I bet the Bengals loved drafting John Ross one pick before Patrick Mahomes

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I bet the Bengals loved drafting John Ross one pick before Patrick Mahomes

Probably so.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

"Not sure why the Belichick thing needs to be addressed further"

Because you're ****ing absolutely clueless. Belichick the GM is ****ing terrible and he's exactly the reason why that roster is complete and utter shit at this point. He can't even build a competitive roster with a QB on a rookie ****ing deal. But sure, I bet he could've rebuilt our defense (twice), OL, etc. like Veach has done the last 5 years.

There's just no way you could look at his draft history over the last 5-8 years and tell me that we'd have the same exact success with him as GM as we have with Veach, who's become one of the best drafters in the league.

Utter shit? Can't build a competitive roster? Puh-lease. They went 7-9, 10-7 and 8-9 the last three seasons. And that's with a bully in their division while also playing in the tougher conference.

The addition of Reid and Mahomes to any of those rosters immediately makes any one of them a contender.

Belichick had the success he had because of Tom Brady and the fact that he's a defensive wizard. His ability or lack thereof to find talent would be on full display if he's not coaching the defense too.

This is a decent argument if you think the synergy between BelichickHC and Brady is greater than that of Reid-Mahomes.

Jerry Jones is not a ****ing scout. He's not the guy that found Tony Pollard you buffoon. He listens to his asvisors and the guys that do the leg work. That's it. I'm pretty sure his son has more say than he does these days.

Pure speculation.

John Lynch is probably the most overrated GM in the NFL at this point. He's not bad, but nowhere near Veach and Roseman. He also gets to be in the NFC where there are like 2-3 legit contenders. They would jot have the same level of success they've had in the AFC.

The GM who's built the most loaded roster in the league and made three of the last four NFCCGs with two different QBs is "not bad". K.

Originally Posted by staylor26

And forgot to mention with Baalke, he's another one that has a QB on a rookie deal, and he's wasting valuable time.

I don't care if they added Ridely. That team has shown the first 3 weeks that they haven't improved much, if at all. That's disasterous considering where they are right now with Trevor.

It's apparent that their regression has most to do with Lawrence. GM has loaded the offense up with weapons at every position, including adding another prime target at WR this season. At some point the #1 overall draft pick has to earn his keep.

Originally Posted by staylor26

Pat is mroe important that Travis Kelce.

That doesn't mean that you can replace Travis Kelce with 6-8 different TEs and have the same level of success we've had.

Veach is to GMs as Kelce is to TEs.

Y'all heard it here first from the most sane CP poster lol