Chiefs A Level Headed Review Week 4 2023 - Page 5

DenverChief · 09:49 PM

I'll preface this weeks review with the fact I was unable to watch the 3rd Q.

1. Isaiah Pacheco - his vision just keeps getting better and better. I have been waiting for him to break a long TD run. Seemed like he was always one defender or one juke away from breaking a long TD. We saw that tonight with an amazing lead block by Smith. 100+ yards on the night was really the workhorse of the game. I feel like he will be a 1200 back for us this year.

2. Patrick Mahomes - 2 Interceptions that just didn't make a whole lot of sense, the fumble on the snap 1st down was pure luck. But Patrick being Patrick puts the team on his back when it really counts and runs for 25 yards on 3rd and 23 and again on 3rd and 10 at the end of the game. Screw the score slide down and drain the clock. Love watching Patrick extend plays but I feel like the Jets played the back yard ball well tonight.

3. Defense - Not sure what happened but early on the Defense was dominating and as the game went on they seemed to regress until the 4th quarter. It was almost like maximum effort in the 1st and 4th Quarters and sleep walking in the 2nd and 3rd. Chiefs got lucky on some dropped TD passes and a missed FG. Wharton being Johnny on the spot with the fumble recovery really sealed the NYJ fate. Brian Cook had a nice open field tackle on the Hall run and Mike Edwards almost had a nice pick.

4. Offense- gotta clean up the holding, work on some red zone scoring - none of the WR's are getting open. Not sure what the problem is but our leading receivers were Kelce (60 yards), Pacheco (43 yards), Gray (34 yards), Rice (32 yards) and Toney (22 yards). This is unacceptable. MVS, Watson, and Moore all just disappeared in the passing game. There was no respect for our WR's they were playing man most of the night their secondary was keeping our WR's in check for the most part. I'll admit I had no idea that any offensive penalty in the End Zone was a Safety - I thought it was only holding - even thought the face mask was initiated outside the End Zone the refs decided to give the Safety anyway.

5. Washington again did a phenomenal job on punts. After the first game and last season it's nice to have some solid play at the PR position.

6. I'll need to rewatch the game but surprisingly no illegal formation calls. Not sure if that was our adjustment or the league got the message from Andy.

7. Mecole Hartman didn't get any receptions. Not sure how many snaps he played but he isn't really factoring into the NYJ Offense.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-02-2023, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by old_geezer

My takeaway from this game is this Taylor Swift crap is hurting the Chiefs. It was obvious to me that Mahomes was pressing, trying his best to get Kelsey the ball too much. He was way off his game lofting "touch" passes more often than not. He knew he was doing it too (Thus his comment to just "throw the ball" as he was coming off the field after his first interception). The icing on the cake was his absolute refusal to use his check down receivers. The Jets were giving him wide open check downs all game and he ignored them trying for the deep ball.

Mahomes isn’t gonna do that. This follows a pattern of mahomes ignoring checkdowns when he doesn’t trust his WRs. He’s gotta break the habit but between skyys bad route and several WR drops (including the Mvs drop which didn’t end up counting…), mahomes has a tendency to play hero ball because he doesn’t trust slowly matriculating down the field. He’s done that for years.

It was a good defense, early mistakes and our tendency to lose some focus when we go up big.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 10-02-2023, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Chris Jones is getting 1 sack per game, maybe he does end up with 15.

Khalil Mack had 6 sacks today against the Raiders!

Some of Macks sacks were laughable... Derrick Thomas would have had 12 against that Oline and QB...

philfree · 10-02-2023, 11:09 AM

This was a weird kind of game. Probably one of those where the team doesn't spend a lot of time going over it but just moves on to the next game.

BryanBusby · 10-02-2023, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

i don't think he can reach it

It's NY/NJ. He probably gets offered a fisting on a daily basis.

FloridaMan88 · 10-02-2023, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by old_geezer

My takeaway from this game is this Taylor Swift crap is hurting the Chiefs. It was obvious to me that Mahomes was pressing, trying his best to get Kelsey the ball too much. He was way off his game lofting "touch" passes more often than not. He knew he was doing it too (Thus his comment to just "throw the ball" as he was coming off the field after his first interception). The icing on the cake was his absolute refusal to use his check down receivers. The Jets were giving him wide open check downs all game and he ignored them trying for the deep ball.

Chiefs are 2-0 with Taylor Swift in attendance.

KCDC · 10-02-2023, 11:43 AM

Our problem is that we have a #1 receiver and 6 #4 receivers.

DJJasonp · 10-02-2023, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

Our problem is that we have a #1 receiver and 6 #4 receivers.

(and the #1 receiver is playing TE)

DRM08 · 10-02-2023, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Mahomes isn’t gonna do that. This follows a pattern of mahomes ignoring checkdowns when he doesn’t trust his WRs. He’s gotta break the habit but between skyys bad route and several WR drops (including the Mvs drop which didn’t end up counting…), mahomes has a tendency to play hero ball because he doesn’t trust slowly matriculating down the field. He’s done that for years.

It was a good defense, early mistakes and our tendency to lose some focus when we go up big.

Yep, Patrick starts forcing stuff when the offense gets off-kilter. A couple years ago it started with CEH fumbling away two straight games and some bobbled balls by the likes of Tyreek and whoever else. I wish Patrick would put stronger emphasis on ball security, regardless of anything else that's happening around him. He's now 28, so I'm not sure he will ever grow out of the tendency.

Dunerdr · 10-02-2023, 12:06 PM

WBF. The Chiefs put it on cruise control thinking they had beaten the Jets into submission, turned the ball over at an alarming rate and still managed a W. Hopefully this was a wake up game.

tmax63 · 10-02-2023, 12:54 PM

Did anyone else besides me notice that Taylor got a safety for hands to the face at the 1 but Mike Danna got his helmet ripped off his head and that was okay? Try and tell me that Taylor isn't still under the microscope. Also wonder after Coach Reid and his confirmation of the refs bias against Taylor last week didn't make the Chiefs "highlighted" for making the officials look the fool this week.

JimNasium · 10-02-2023, 02:23 PM

Good teams win games like this.

**HemiEd** · 10-02-2023, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio

Tommy Townsend free kick from the 20-yd line to the end zone for a touchback with no touch by the returner deserves mention.

I do not know if I have ever seen a post-safety free kick from the twenty be a land on the ground touchback.

Speaking of the kicking game, Butker is a machine this year. Whatever he had going on between his ears after last years injury has been cured!
It is so nice to not worry about an extra point any more! He is Mr. Automatic!

**HemiEd** · 10-02-2023, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by old_geezer

My takeaway from this game is this Taylor Swift crap is hurting the Chiefs. It was obvious to me that Mahomes was pressing, trying his best to get Kelsey the ball too much. He was way off his game lofting "touch" passes more often than not. He knew he was doing it too (Thus his comment to just "throw the ball" as he was coming off the field after his first interception). The icing on the cake was his absolute refusal to use his check down receivers. The Jets were giving him wide open check downs all game and he ignored them trying for the deep ball.

Yep, my oldest grandson down in Texas and I usually text some during the games.
I told him the same thing, too much Taylor Swift and too many commercials. They need some gounding and humility in my opinion. Hopefully last nights scare will get it done.

Monticore · 10-02-2023, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

Yep, Patrick starts forcing stuff when the offense gets off-kilter. A couple years ago it started with CEH fumbling away two straight games and some bobbled balls by the likes of Tyreek and whoever else. I wish Patrick would put stronger emphasis on ball security, regardless of anything else that's happening around him. He's now 28, so I'm not sure he will ever grow out of the tendency.

Looking a the stats not sure his ball security is a big concern, it always sucks when they happen but for the amount of attempts he has it’s definitely acceptable , I much prefer that then castrating him into Alex Smith .

HC_Chief · 10-02-2023, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tmax63

Did anyone else besides me notice that Taylor got a safety for hands to the face at the 1 but Mike Danna got his helmet ripped off his head and that was okay? Try and tell me that Taylor isn't still under the microscope. Also wonder after Coach Reid and his confirmation of the refs bias against Taylor last week didn't make the Chiefs "highlighted" for making the officials look the fool this week.

Yep; texted a buddy when that happened. "Oh, so they can rip Danna's helmet off now and that's not a foul?"

The refs flat out sucked last night. The safety and "horse collar" penalties were egregious (cue Reese Bobby).

The game was really never in doubt. The people wringing their hands post game are suffering from lack of the Chiefs meeting their expectations for a blowout.

We had a blowout going, then the Jets decided to play their best three quarters of football this season. Hell, maybe even beyond this season. Their D was lit, and Wilson played out of his mind. Sometimes the other guys make plays.

Despite all that, the KC D continues to be dominant, surrendering 18pts w/ a couple of short fields due to INTs. The running game was D O M I N A N T against a formidable defense. Special Teams were virtually flawless (damn, Jets have one hell of a punter too... guess if you're going to be consistently bad, you better have a good punter?)

KC could have easily had a 10 point victory but decided instead to clock it at 3. On to the next game.

10-01-2023, 09:37 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	A Level Headed Review Week 4 2023 I'll preface this weeks review with the fact I was unable to watch the 3rd Q. 1. Isaiah Pacheco - his vision just keeps getting better and better. I have been waiting for him to break a long TD run. Seemed like he was always one defender or one juke away from breaking a long TD. We saw that tonight with an amazing lead block by Smith. 100+ yards on the night was really the workhorse of the game. I feel like he will be a 1200 back for us this year. 2. Patrick Mahomes - 2 Interceptions that just didn't make a whole lot of sense, the fumble on the snap 1st down was pure luck. But Patrick being Patrick puts the team on his back when it really counts and runs for 25 yards on 3rd and 23 and again on 3rd and 10 at the end of the game. Screw the score slide down and drain the clock. Love watching Patrick extend plays but I feel like the Jets played the back yard ball well tonight. 3. Defense - Not sure what happened but early on the Defense was dominating and as the game went on they seemed to regress until the 4th quarter. It was almost like maximum effort in the 1st and 4th Quarters and sleep walking in the 2nd and 3rd. Chiefs got lucky on some dropped TD passes and a missed FG. Wharton being Johnny on the spot with the fumble recovery really sealed the NYJ fate. Brian Cook had a nice open field tackle on the Hall run and Mike Edwards almost had a nice pick. 4. Offense- gotta clean up the holding, work on some red zone scoring - none of the WR's are getting open. Not sure what the problem is but our leading receivers were Kelce (60 yards), Pacheco (43 yards), Gray (34 yards), Rice (32 yards) and Toney (22 yards). This is unacceptable. MVS, Watson, and Moore all just disappeared in the passing game. There was no respect for our WR's they were playing man most of the night their secondary was keeping our WR's in check for the most part. I'll admit I had no idea that any offensive penalty in the End Zone was a Safety - I thought it was only holding - even thought the face mask was initiated outside the End Zone the refs decided to give the Safety anyway. 5. Washington again did a phenomenal job on punts. After the first game and last season it's nice to have some solid play at the PR position. 6. I'll need to rewatch the game but surprisingly no illegal formation calls. Not sure if that was our adjustment or the league got the message from Andy. 7. Mecole Hartman didn't get any receptions. Not sure how many snaps he played but he isn't really factoring into the NYJ Offense. Last edited by DenverChief; 10-01-2023 at 09:49 PM..
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