Believe what your eyes tell you, not what your heart feels.

[scho63]

Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era.

Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods.

And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg.

We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team.

At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles.

I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew.

Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride.

Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time.

Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins.

Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it.

This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely.

This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a ****ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular.

When your top two stars are ****ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble.

I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards.

We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024.

From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season.

Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.

[FloridaMan88]

Does Andy have the energy and motivation to aggressively re-imagine the offense this offseason?

It’s going to take an infusion of new ideas… in addition to personnel upgrades… to get this offense back to its previous standard.

Keeping Nagy and re-arranging his existing in-house coaching staff won’t cut it.

[farmerchief]

Originally Posted by scho63

Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era.

Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods.

And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg.

We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team.

At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles.

I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew.

Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride.

Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time.

Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins.

Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it.

This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely.

This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a ****ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular.

When your top two stars are ****ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble.

I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards.

We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024.

From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season.

Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.

Yep, exactly as I see it. I just hope they can hang on and win the west again, and everyone stay healthy.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?!?

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Fish

OP, please drink a tall glass of Christmas Antifreeze.

Go drink some semen infused eggnog and wash it down with douchejuice you asshole.

[ForeverIowan]

If this team has any chance in hell in the playoffs they better start EMBRACING the FACT they will need to win 17-13 types of games. PROTECT the football. Get the gimmicky cute play calls the F outta here. Punting is okay. If the playoffs aren't turnover free we are going home early.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by scho63

Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era.

Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods.

And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg.

We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team.

At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles.

I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew.

Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride.

Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time.

Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins.

Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it.

This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely.

This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a ****ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular.

When your top two stars are ****ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble.

I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards.

We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024.

From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season.

Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.

Best post of the seasn scho. I agree 100%. Every team that strings together a decade or more of success has a rebuild on O or D to keep it going. They tried and failed in the off season. Time to take our lumps this year and sah hey, at least we see post season ball, then reboot. Mahomes is amazing but can’t carry a team anymore than anyone else with piss poor support. The Chiefs will be fine for another decade but this team needs major changes on offense.its football, not life

[TEX]

Originally Posted by scho63

Go drink some semen infused eggnog and wash it down with douchejuice you asshole.

[Bearcat]

Stop watching then.

[njchiefs]

“ I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew.”

I have been a NJ Chiefs fan since 1967. Where in NJ did you grow up? And your message is spot on. This down year, fraught with absurd game losing foibles, is somehow more palatable than in the past … because of what they’ve given us in the Mahomes era. To put things in perspective, the worst possible outcome for us in the playoffs this year is the best outcome we had for twenty five years after Montana.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Stop watching then.

Your effort on this post is weaker than the effort of the 2023 Chiefs.

[JPH83]

Like others have said, we'll go again next year. I think it's beyond this team as it's currently constructed and after this many games. Plenty needs to change and I fully expect it will next year. Can't be too downhearted about it

[Arch Stanton]

This loss is obviously on Kadarious Toney.

[DTHOF]

The guys aren't having fun any more and pressing big time. It is visible on the sideline

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[scho63]

Originally Posted by njchiefs

“ I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew.”

I have been a NJ Chiefs fan since 1967. Where in NJ did you grow up? And your message is spot on. This down year, fraught with absurd game losing foibles, is somehow more palatable than in the past … because of what they’ve given us in the Mahomes era. To put things in perspective, the worst possible outcome for us in the playoffs this year is the best outcome we had for twenty five years after Montana.

Born in Newark, grew up at the shore in Ocean County. Home of the World Series Little League Champs, Seaside Boardwalk, Blind Faith murder, Amityville movie shoot, town of one of the most famous Halloween Parades, actress Piper Perabo, band Skid Row, classmate to famous music photographer Danny Clinch, comedian Dimitri Martin.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

If this team has any chance in hell in the playoffs they better start EMBRACING the FACT they will need to win 17-13 types of games. PROTECT the football. Get the gimmicky cute play calls the F outta here. Punting is okay. If the playoffs aren't turnover free we are going home early.

There is truth to this since two turnovers lost today’s game.

It sucks to play Martyball with Mahomes at QB, but that’s the current reality.