Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[wachashi]

People claim this is the worst offense of the Mahomes era, and statistically, that is true. But really, this roster is mostly the same as last year's Super Bowl winning roster. Arguably, this team's offense has a higher ceiling in terms of total talent.

The difference this year, and which has been the topic of much discussion, is drops and penalties. There was a lack of focus.

But, what happens if this team suddenly learns how to erase the dumb penalties and make routine catches? I think we're finding out now...

[Shag]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

Hiw about you send Spags a email CC Andy and tell him cover 0 all day. Be sure to attach that little table.

Nah, I'll just wait for Mahomes to tell Spags to make some adjustments, if needed.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Shag

Nah, I'll just wait for Mahomes to tell Spags to make some adjustments, if needed.

Let's be reasonable here.

Mahomes isn't going to tell Spags how to call the defense.

That's Willie Gay's job.

[BigRedChief]

Has our new members from Baltimore posted this yet?

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

I know you'll laugh at this but this guy under center for the Ravens is light years better than that guy that punished Spags for blitzing him 2 years ago. This guy is eating the blitz alive and get this he's also doing it outside the numbers.

Ok, cool.

You're not scoring 34 points.

[OneWinningDrive]

Calling Lamar dumb because of his accent (literally just a kid from South Florida)/some contrived written exam for draft prospects (which Stroud also bombed)/the fact that he wears a wristband (Tom Brady did too) is a tired trope.

It’s especially funny because this article came out today from
the Washington Post: “Lamar Jackson’s vision and intellect have unlocked the Ravens offense” (washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/01/18/lamar-jackson-ravens-offense/). In it, people who engage with football on a professional level call him a savant. But sure, Chiefsplanet posters don’t like the way he talks in the postgame.

Lamar is an all-time player not just because of the accolades like Hesiman trophy winner and 2x MVP, but also because what he’s doing is revolutionary. He has been a large factor in ushering in a new era of QB play. And he’s not a Greek God like Cam Newton or Anthony Richardson; I think his speed is even a bit overstated. He does it because of his processing/vision. Maybe not the type of processing Peyton Manning did, but processing of leverage, running lanes, whether to keep or give in the RPO. And this to smashing success. What makes that less than? He needs the title to cement it, so here’s to hoping.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

I can't speak why Lamar didn't change routes mid play. Some teams do it some don't. I do know it was reported that he went into the lockerrom laid into the offense talked to the coaches about the plays he wanted to run and came out and put 24 second half points.

There were more than a few people that have referenced Lamars wonderlic and them wanted to blitz him because he can't read defense. That happen in this thread over the last feel days.

I've pointed out that Lamar has eaten the blitz alive all season. I just mentioned the game 2 years ago because that was the last game that Lamar played against a Spags D.

Are you sure? Are you sure them wanted to blitz him? Maybe them wanted to play coverage instead.

[Reroka]

The chiefs hold the dolphins under 30 in both game and they had the best offense in the nfl. The ravens who has the 6th ranked offense is going to drop over 30 on the chiefs? That just a little disrespectful to the Chiefs defense. The ravens are only 1st in rushing offense.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

Well he wasn't try8ng to process he was trying to get the ball deep. They plays that were being called were longer developing plays without a built in hot. At halftime the guy that can't read a defense woth slow processing went to the QB coach and told him he need more short to intermediate throws. He came out the 2nd half read tje defense perfectly and carved the Texans up just as he has done to every other team this season that's tried to blitz him.

Also you guys want to put the last loss to the Ravens on CEH, go back and watch the tape. Lamar punished Spags for blitzing him. I know I know it wasn't Spags blitzing it was Sorenson, Nieman, amd the likes.

You realize this is a much more talented defense and the best in the NFL this season. You....do...realize...that right?

[DJ's left nut]

Yup.

He's gonna still be amazing when he's 33 and doesn't have his legs to create coverage chaos and allow holes in the back end to develop. Because...savant.

That's definitely why the Ravens weren't willing to give him all those guarantees he was asking for, obviously why they were trying to drum up a trade market for him and clearly why they made sure to leave themselves an out in his contract before he turned 30...

Probably because they figured that when he's 30 years old, he'll be looking to get started on his career as an offensive coordinator. That's them just doing him a solid.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by wachashi

People claim this is the worst offense of the Mahomes era, and statistically, that is true. But really, this roster is mostly the same as last year's Super Bowl winning roster. Arguably, this team's offense has a higher ceiling in terms of total talent.

The difference this year, and which has been the topic of much discussion, is drops and penalties. There was a lack of focus.

But, what happens if this team suddenly learns how to erase the dumb penalties and make routine catches? I think we're finding out now...

Simply just removing Toney and Skyy Moore has done wonders for this offense. I just pray they don't activate one of those two.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Whogotitbetter

Lamar is better then allen, he may not have a stronger arm then allen, but his throwing angles make up for it

you are clueless. Absolutely clueless

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

I'll try it once more. The gameplan going in was to test the Texans secondary because they have a weak secondary. They didn't expect Ryans to send, not just the kitchen sink, but the house on literally every single play ( they blitzed 75% of the time Saturday). They went into half and made adjustments just as they have done every single game this season. Lamar was apart of the adjustment conversation just as Mahomes is for the Chiefs. He said they couldn't continue to call long developing plays because they were sending more rushers then the had blockers. It wasn't that coaches didn't see I mean Steve Winder and Ray Charles saw it. My point is the stupid guy with the low wonderlic that can't read defenses knew just enough to know they needed to go to shorter passes and didn't need someone to hold his hand to figure it out.

Why are you lying. This never happened

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yup.

He's gonna still be amazing when he's 33 and doesn't have his legs to create coverage chaos and allow holes in the back end to develop. Because...savant.

That's definitely why the Ravens weren't willing to give him all those guarantees he was asking for, obviously why they were trying to drum up a trade market for him and clearly why they made sure to leave themselves an out in his contract before he turned 30...

Probably because they figured that when he's 30 years old, he'll be looking to get started on his career as an offensive coordinator. That's them just doing him a solid.

Lamar has improved every single year of his career. He is exponentially better as a passer now than he was when he came into the league. Fading/doubting Lamar’s ability to adapt/grow is a losing proposition.

Would Lamar be good if he was immobile and had to rely entirely on his arm like Joe Flacco? No. But he doesn’t need to be Barry Sanders at QB like he was in his early days. The threat of him recognizing running lanes/reading leverage and beating one man in the open field opens up so much for him. Those aren’t things that will go away even if his raw speed does.

And even if he doesn’t play when he’s 33+, so what? Oh no, we only got a decade of multiple MVPs/historic regular seasons/potential Super Bowls out of the 32nd overall pick, what a disaster! The Ravens will reinvent themselves as they have multiple times before and be right back in it. Unlike some franchises, the Ravens have shown they’re more than just a QB/coach.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

Why are you lying. This never happened

"Lamar Jackson said to change the offense. The entire locker room clapped. John Harbaugh broke into tears. I was so proud."