Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Well, at least you're not calling us racists for saying Lamar is a RB. Which he is, by the way.

Yep. And if the Chiefs can make RB Lamar play QB, other than by his or the Ravens' choice, KC will win.

[loochy]

Guys, I'm sooo excited about this weekend.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Oh, come on. If Lamar Jackson had accomplished in six seasons what Mahomes has, you'd be just as confident in his abilities.

The FLOOR for a Mahomes-QB'd season is losing in OT of the AFC championship game.

Chiefs fans have seen Mahomes elevate his own roster over more "complete" teams with less at QB time and again. They have seen him win healthy, they have seen him win injured. They have seen him win lighting up opposing teams with the passing game. They have seen him lighting up opposing teams with clutch play after clutch.

They won the Super Bowl against two teams that were "stacked" and more complete and better than KC, with indomitable defenses that were purported to be capable of shutting Mahomes down. He faced one of them with a badly sprained ankle that he re-sprained in the first half.

So yeah, of course, on their OWN message board, Chiefs fans are confident in his ability and point to him as a reason they are confident. He has performed miracles on the football field for this team time and again, enough that if we were talking Catholisiscm here, you could apply for his Sainthood many times over.

The Ravens are at home and have a better all-around roster. They have a star QB, and a strong defense. Most of the Chiefs fans here and most of the discussion in this thread before Ravens fans dipped their toes in was about how this was a tough game and a coin flip, with many even saying the odds are with the Ravens.

And I'll leave with again sharing with you the history of this BB in the Mahomes era:

1. Chiefs make AFC title game or Super Bowl
2. Opposing fans start showing up
3. Opposing fans start out nice, then get surprised the Chiefs fans here are supremely confident
4. Opposing fans start chirping about whatever their perceived edge is (19 Titans: Derrick Henry + beating KC in regular season; 19 49ers: Stacked roster, #1 defense; 20 Bills: stacked roster, alien QB, #1 defense, hot team; 21 Bills: stacked roster, alien QB, #1 defense, revenge; 22 Bengals: stacked offense, defense that has Reid/Mahomes' number, alien QB with edge on Mahomes, Mahomes is hurt; 22 Eagles: stacked offense, alien QB, #1 defense)
5. Chiefs fans respond by saying "oh, this again." and point to the history of knocking off these teams with the perceived edge
6. Chiefs go win, anyway.

It's old hat.

Final statement: Of opposing fans who have found their way here and gone through this cycle, you have the potential to stick around and have fun no matter the outcome. That's rare.

Now go chug some antifreeze and throw yourself into a flaming dumpster filled with AIDS needles.

Salute!

I get it. Every other franchise is jealous that you have Mahomes. All of them/us. He's him. Anyone who doesn't recognize that doesn't know what they're looking at. And I respect that Chiefs fans appreciate this moment for what it is. The comment of mine you quoted was less serious than it was breaking balls.

That said, I do think people here, elsewhere, and in the media focus too much on quaterbacks at the expense of anything else. It's the most important position in sports, but there are other dynamics at play that matter. If they didn't, then the Ravens wouldn't have won a Super Bowl with Dilfer and Flacco. If people here genuinely hold the belief that "we have Mahomes and you don't so nothing else matters," then I do disagree. It just stunts substantive conversation to collapse everything into QB A > QB B.

So I guess I do get triggered when people frame every single topic as "Mahomes vs. Lamar" when it's "Chiefs vs. Ravens." Especially when the "Mahomes vs. Lamar" turns into acting like the only player to ever have won a Heisman and two MVPs is some fraudulent also ran simply because he's not Patrick Mahomes.

Anyway, appreciate your explanations. I would like to stick around. This place is pretty unique. I just need to ignore the negative reputation comments telling me "Hope the entire female side of your family gets ass raped tonight." Onward and upward!

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by wachashi

This Ravens defense is excellent in the red zone, and we know the Chiefs this year have kicked a few too many field goals. That's a strength on a weakness to keep an eye on.

But really, if the focus issues are cleaned up, and we're now dealing with a team that's avoiding dumb penalties and drops, I'd expect the red zone offense to return to an elite level.

The Chiefs are getting better every week against progressively better defenses.

CIN - 373 - 1 TD - 6 FG
MIA - 409 - 2 TD - 4 FG
BUF - 361 (franchise record Y/P) - 3 TD - 2 FG

The Chiefs are about to explode on Baltimore.

They're locked in right now and getting better every week.

In -30 wind chill and on the road.

There is no stopping this freight train.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

In 10 games Mark had 45 Rec for 544 yards woth 6 TDs

In 17 games Kelce had 81 Rec for 838 yards 5 TDs.

In 7 more games Kelce had 36 more rec, less than 300 more yards and 1 less TD.

You tell me the top 3 TE

Why are you lying again? Those aren't Kelces numbers.

[Tonka83]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Oh shit, one extra day of rest for the Ravens?!

If only the Chiefs had experience playing with a rest deficit… oh wait, see every Chiefs game in the month of December.

December my ass. The whole season was a scheduling clusterfuk. I have never seen a schedule quite like the Chiefs had this year. Maybe it's happened before, but it sure seems like the team got the short end of the stick week in, week out. The crazy ting is, we are a few dropped passes and a lame-brain lining up off-sides, from being 16-1.

[PurpleOrange]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I’m not too worried about the extra day of rest for them but I am annoyed that our defense played damn near 80 snaps in Buffalo. I’m not going to bother checking into how many snaps the Ravens D played but I’m assuming it was a lot less.

47 snaps. Ravens offense had the ball for almost 38 minutes.

There's also talk Humphrey may return this weekend for the defense, this is meaningless. He's been bad and/or hurt most of this year.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by PurpleOrange

Lamar's injury was a much debated topic in Baltimore last year. There are many that thought he could and should have played regardless of if he was 100% Personally I was in the other camp that thought he wasn't well enough to play but he would have played had he thought he could.

You realize he didn't play because he's absolutely useless without the dynamic running ability. You do realize that's why he sat right? He's also "soft"

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Grunhard was talking about using a similar plan via the Bills. DL doesn't all rush. Basically create a wall with gap integrity to make Lamar sit in the pocket while having 6 defenders defending the pass.

Not sure how I feel about that

You'll see a shit ton of cover 0 as well. I guarantee it. He'll mix things up so much that pea brain won't know how to process it.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by loochy

Guys, I'm sooo excited about this weekend.

This. I’m tired of the talk and the back and forth, let’s just play the damned game and find out already.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

I just need to ignore the negative reputation comments

Whining about it is the first step!

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

In 10 games Mark had 45 Rec for 544 yards woth 6 TDs

In 17 games Kelce had 81 Rec for 838 yards 5 TDs.

In 7 more games Kelce had 36 more rec, less than 300 more yards and 1 less TD.

You tell me the top 3 TE

You know Kelce hyperextended his knee just before the season started right? You know that he is maybe the greatest TE of all time right? You know that he'll be giving everything he has on Sunday right? Remember this. Kelce is not 40 years old hanging on for a few more paychecks. He's still near the top of his game.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by PurpleOrange

47 snaps. Ravens offense had the ball for almost 38 minutes.

There's also talk Humphrey may return this weekend for the defene, this is meaningless. He's been bad and/or hurt most of this year.

Yeah - what happened to Humphrey? That guy was a legitimate top 5 CB when he signed his extension and he just hasn't lived up to it. Did I miss a lower body injury early in that deal that took a lot out of him?

Because Humphrey, in his prime, was a problem. And at 27 years old, he's not gotten to the age related wall yet (I typically put that at about 29 for DBs). He just hasn't been that guy in awhile.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Whining about it is the first step!

I'm not whining about it. I'm calling people out. You're a community here, and if you have people like BlackHelicopters leaving messages like that, I figure others should know. Do with that what you will.

Anyway, back to MAHOMES >>>> LAMARUNNINGBACK.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Salute!

I get it. Every other franchise is jealous that you have Mahomes. All of them/us. He's him. Anyone who doesn't recognize that doesn't know what they're looking at. And I respect that Chiefs fans appreciate this moment for what it is. The comment of mine you quoted was less serious than it was breaking balls.

That said, I do think people here, elsewhere, and in the media focus too much on quaterbacks at the expense of anything else. It's the most important position in sports, but there are other dynamics at play that matter. If they didn't, then the Ravens wouldn't have won a Super Bowl with Dilfer and Flacco. If people here genuinely hold the belief that "we have Mahomes and you don't so nothing else matters," then I do disagree. It just stunts substantive conversation to collapse everything into QB A > QB B.

So I guess I do get triggered when people frame every single topic as "Mahomes vs. Lamar" when it's "Chiefs vs. Ravens." Especially when the "Mahomes vs. Lamar" turns into acting like the only player to ever have won a Heisman and two MVPs is some fraudulent also ran simply because he's not Patrick Mahomes.

Anyway, appreciate your explanations. I would like to stick around. This place is pretty unique. I just need to ignore the negative reputation comments telling me "Hope the entire female side of your family gets ass raped tonight." Onward and upward!

It’s understandable why you would think that seeing as how you have a RB playing the position.