Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Watt and Hill are definitely "valuable" in the MVP context. I think Lamar is in that same tier though; this would be a very average offense without him in the same way that the Steelers/Dolphins dropoff without Watt/Hill.

I almost wish they would just have a "QB MVP" and then MVP for everyone else, because the nature of the QB position is always going to be more valuable regardless.

By the way, what's the consensus amongst Chiefs fans about KC and Tyreek at this point? Was it just an inevitability that he had to go given his cost? If you could go back now and spend every available cap dollar on him, would it have been worth it?

Even as good as he is and as bad as our WRs have been at times this year, I would not have done it. KC won the SB without him last year and is in the AFCCG this year without him. He would have been a nice piece to have here, but not at $30 million a year. Veach was able to trade him and get some valuable pieces to this roster. I believe McDuffie was one of them. It’s gonna be very hard moving forward to pay any WR market setting money when your QB is one of the highest paid in the league.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

You still left out how LameArm had to tel his coaches what was happening on the field last Saturday. Thank God he’s of uncanny knowledge that even his own coaches don’t know, or understand.

These clowns are the most misinformed fans we’ve had come through to date. And that’s over people who jump through flaming tables, and throw dildos! Embarrassing! I guess when your franchise is still in its infancy stages, you get the young, dumb, and misinformed!

That's the savant thermodynamics part.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Honestly don’t let that keep you from coming back. Yes you can expect hostility, but it probably won’t be any different than any other message board when a team loses (except for the antifreeze and AIDS fire). Absorb the anger and abuse from some and you will be just fine. This place is unique and once you get used to it, you will find that it’s not the cesspool that other places accuse us of.

Appreciate you. If nothing else, this place is lively.

TwistedChief said it best that being a visitor here is like warding off wave after wave of zombies. Just constant reinforcements coming out of the woodwork to spout off the same exhausting tropes.

I'm convinced it's a bit at this point. Most civilized places online would laugh at you for calling Lamar Jackson a running back at this point, but the creatures here say it with their chest out.

This place is a throwback to the Wild West days of message boards. Just good old fashion nasty work being done by true internet ghouls.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

No, they are not exempt from that. What they have done is stood in the ring (in the postseason) and beat the biggest alleged bad ass in the room, multiple times.

49ers
Eagles
Bills (last week)
L but toe to toe with Brady's Patriots in Mahomes 1st year as a starter

What has this (Lamar's) edition of the Ravens ever done in the post season outside of beating the playoff tomato can Titans and an out way over their skis, rookie lead Houston team?

There you go moving the goalposts yet again. The question was how did the Ravens lose to the Browns not how has Lamar done in the postseason

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I love that these teams haven’t played each other in 2.5 years and historically that usually bodes well for our offense to have not been “seen” in awhile.

This Lamar versus Mahomes matchup somehow feels fresh, even though it was dominating, headlines just a few years ago.

Didn't know that was a dynamic with the Chiefs offense.

But definitely applies vice versa. It's why Lamar is 19-1 against NFC teams and why two of our three losses this year were against AFC North teams. The uniqueness/degree of difficulty defending Lamar goes up if you don't see him very often.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Didn't know that was a dynamic with the Chiefs offense.

But definitely applies vice versa. It's why Lamar is 19-1 against NFC teams and why two of our three losses this year were against AFC North teams. The uniqueness/degree of difficulty defending Lamar goes up if you don't see him very often.

What happened to the Ravens D vs the Rams?

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Here is the full quote below. Seems pretty obvious what Dawkins meant with the 'good luck' part at the very end of the statement. Mahomes clearly used it as motivation and threw it back at Dawkins after the game.

“Mahomes has never been to the Bills stadium in full,” Dawkins said. “The environment will be different, and not to say it’s in our favor, but stadium is our favor. Stadium is us. That helps us. I don’t care what nobody says. This is the most dopest feeling I’ve ever had. We’re having two back to back playoff games at home. Come on now, like we get to leave and go eat wings. It’s cool. So good luck.”

Sounds to me that he was Bobby Stropped. What's wrong with what he said.. al he said it's a good feeling to have back 2 back home playoff games.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

There you go moving the goalposts yet again. The question was how did the Ravens lose to the Browns not how has Lamar done in the postseason

If I say "tell me something impressive" and you say "I drove to work today", and I laugh at you... and you say "well, I also microwaved my own lunch", and I laugh at you again.... that's not me "moving the goalposts," the issue is your pathetic definition of impressive.

Hope that clears it up.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Appreciate you. If nothing else, this place is lively.

TwistedChief said it best that being a visitor here is like warding off wave after wave of zombies. Just constant reinforcements coming out of the woodwork to spout off the same exhausting tropes.

I'm convinced it's a bit at this point. Most civilized places online would laugh at you for calling Lamar Jackson a running back at this point, but the creatures here say it with their chest out.

This place is a throwback to the Wild West days of message boards. Just good old fashion nasty work being done by true internet ghouls.

Well, at least you're not calling us racists for saying Lamar is a RB. Which he is, by the way.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

What happened to the Ravens D vs the Rams?

The Rams offense is honestly just good. They're not loaded, but the Stafford/Puka/Kyren/Kupp combination works. Stafford was making incredible timing throws that game and the receivers were coming down with everything. It was also a rainy game too, which can throw a wrench in things.

That Rams and the the second half against the Browns when they came back with Watson were the only times this defense has looked vulnerable. Those are the game plans I would be copying if I was the Chiefs' offense.

Edit: To add, the Rams established the run early. The Ravens have almost invariably been one of the best run defenses in the NFL for many years, but this year they're middle of the pack there. It's by design and has come with the benefit of having the lowest YPA through the air. But they can be had there, and the Rams set that tone early which opened things up for them.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Well, at least you're not calling us racists for saying Lamar is a RB. Which he is, by the way.

I've always thought Lamar is like if Barry Sanders decided he wanted to play quarterback and also had arm talent. I know it's meant as some sort of disparaging remark, but I honestly think it's pretty cool to watch something different that still works at the highest levels

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

The meat riding is crazy. Doing absolute tricks on him. Are you a Chiefs fan or a Patrick Mahomes groupie? All you people want to talk about is Mahomes Lamar Mahomes Lamar. Yawn.

Oh, come on. If Lamar Jackson had accomplished in six seasons what Mahomes has, you'd be just as confident in his abilities.

The FLOOR for a Mahomes-QB'd season is losing in OT of the AFC championship game.

Chiefs fans have seen Mahomes elevate his own roster over more "complete" teams with less at QB time and again. They have seen him win healthy, they have seen him win injured. They have seen him win lighting up opposing teams with the passing game. They have seen him lighting up opposing teams with clutch play after clutch.

They won the Super Bowl against two teams that were "stacked" and more complete and better than KC, with indomitable defenses that were purported to be capable of shutting Mahomes down. He faced one of them with a badly sprained ankle that he re-sprained in the first half.

So yeah, of course, on their OWN message board, Chiefs fans are confident in his ability and point to him as a reason they are confident. He has performed miracles on the football field for this team time and again, enough that if we were talking Catholisiscm here, you could apply for his Sainthood many times over.

The Ravens are at home and have a better all-around roster. They have a star QB, and a strong defense. Most of the Chiefs fans here and most of the discussion in this thread before Ravens fans dipped their toes in was about how this was a tough game and a coin flip, with many even saying the odds are with the Ravens.

And I'll leave with again sharing with you the history of this BB in the Mahomes era:

1. Chiefs make AFC title game or Super Bowl
2. Opposing fans start showing up
3. Opposing fans start out nice, then get surprised the Chiefs fans here are supremely confident
4. Opposing fans start chirping about whatever their perceived edge is (19 Titans: Derrick Henry + beating KC in regular season; 19 49ers: Stacked roster, #1 defense; 20 Bills: stacked roster, alien QB, #1 defense, hot team; 21 Bills: stacked roster, alien QB, #1 defense, revenge; 22 Bengals: stacked offense, defense that has Reid/Mahomes' number, alien QB with edge on Mahomes, Mahomes is hurt; 22 Eagles: stacked offense, alien QB, #1 defense)
5. Chiefs fans respond by saying "oh, this again." and point to the history of knocking off these teams with the perceived edge
6. Chiefs go win, anyway.

It's old hat.

Final statement: Of opposing fans who have found their way here and gone through this cycle, you have the potential to stick around and have fun no matter the outcome. That's rare.

Now go chug some antifreeze and throw yourself into a flaming dumpster filled with AIDS needles.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

. He wouldn't go top 3 in a TE draft this week (talking about remaining TE)

In 10 games Mark had 45 Rec for 544 yards woth 6 TDs

In 17 games Kelce had 81 Rec for 838 yards 5 TDs.

In 7 more games Kelce had 36 more rec, less than 300 more yards and 1 less TD.

You tell me the top 3 TE

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Kman34

Lame response… Patrick is the best QB in the league.. Even on one leg.. Don’t think for one minute Lamar could of done what Patrick did last year… You guys are a great team but bottom line is we are the champs and until we get knocked off we deserve respect..

Lamar Jackson, in fact, had the opportunity to try to play through a lower leg injury and elevate his team.

He chose not to play on one leg.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Baltimore is much healthier, appears to be a major advantage on the injury front. But one positive for KC is that Mahomes was playing on a bad ankle last year and he’s in better shape at the moment.

Limited from Gay is a good sign - seems like he's recovering (rather than a DNP).