Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[digger]

Originally Posted by PurpleOrange

THE GOAT of TV Shows!

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

You have manically posted 150+ posts here during the past 24 hours.

And each subsequent post sounds more incoherent.

The Chiefs are living rent free in your head and your fear is palpable.

The guy with 35 thousands posts that, if anything like the ones in this thread, involve yelling into the void is talking about my 150 posts. You sound as out of touch as the program in your avi.

[Iowanian]

The team made an excellent choice with the color scheme of the ravens by modeling it after the color pallet of a bruise.

It will match your delicate lady parts if the terrible, awe full, unproven talentless hacks from Kansas City somehow miraculously win.

By the time mahomes is done in KC, they will have more super bowls than Benjamin Buford Blue had shrimp recipes….

[PurpleOrange]

Originally Posted by digger

Sorry, The Mahomes of TV Shows!

[Iowanian]

Lamar’s knickname honestly should be radio.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

We've drafted several GOATs, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed. We signed Justing Tucker as an undrafted FA. Jonathan Ogden is considered one of the greatest LT of all time.

Lawrence Taylor and Ronnie Lott laugh in your general direction.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

What exactly went wrong for KC this year? Your GM constructed a mid roster by not getting any receivers? And that’s hand waved away? You did that.

Also suggesting that a guy is in the GOAT conversation while also explaining away how a loss as acceptable is incongruent. If he’s the GOAT, he wins this game. He beats the DVOA darlings with the MVP in their house. If he doesn’t win that game, it matters. As a non-Chiefs fan, I’ll tell you right now that I won’t think of him the way people here want me to. Because people here aren’t saying he’s very good—they’re saying he is the greatest to ever do it. Then prove it no matter the circumstances.

If you construct a mid roster and the baby goat loses, you’re not who people on this board are telling me you are. You don’t have the Pats’ cache, not even close. You might think you’re “on track,” but you’re not there just as much as no one here will give credit to Lamar/the Ravens for being “on track” for a Super Bowl when it’s all said and done. You have to actually do it in games like this. Defend your title.

Spinning this narrative that this game is a win/win for the Chiefs should be beneath you if you think these guys are who you say they are.

Mahomes has already won a Super Bowl while taking up the highest percentage of the cap of all time (edit: second-highest of anyone who has even QB'd in the Super Bowl), so I don't need to see more to question if he can elevate a less-than-perfect roster situation. He just showed he can (and on a bad ankle for 2 and 3/4 games in the playoffs, to boot).

What went wrong for KC this year was the plan for the WR room. Multi-variate. Valdes-Scantling regressed badly (prior to last week's game against Buffalo, he had done much less than a year ago). Skyy Moore didn't translate steps forward in practice/camp to a step forward on the field. Kadarius Toney got hurt and then couldn't catch a cold. Richie James was signed as veteran insurance for those last two players and got hurt early.

Everything else from a planning perspective has worked out pretty well. You can't account for or expect being -15 or whatever it was in turnovers, but that could be called out as another, more random "gone wrong."

Not saying it wouldn't be disappointing to fail to get there. It would hurt the Chiefs and Mahomes' legacies a bit.

But that doesn't mean it hurts them as much as it hurts Jackson and the Ravens. It's hard to build a team that's this complete and that stays this healthy come the last 3 weeks of the season. To not win in that spot, and when you haven't done it yet, tarnishes a legacy far more than hitting your min outcome under a regime.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

That makes sense. I can tell there's definitely some projection in terms of visitors all being lumped in together. Nothing I shouldn't expect, and no one is forcing me to be here.

I personally hope the Ravens/Chiefs can become a bit of a rivalry. The Ravens have had healthy rivalries with the Steelers and Patriots that were mostly defined by mutual respect. No real animosity in the way that most rivalries are defined. The Ravens had to prove they belonged with Pittsburgh/New England before it truly became that since those two teams were entrenched, and they'll need to do that with KC too. But there's a reality where teams can play each other tough and the fanbases begrudgingly respect what the other is about without it turning into vitriol. Steelers/Ravens is honestly a love/hate sort of thing. Doesn't seem like Chiefs fans respect the Ravens very much, but maybe the Ravens winning this weekend will change that.

If we are looking at rivals outside of the division I would be fine with this. Much better than the Bengals or Bills.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

What exactly went wrong for KC this year? Your GM constructed a mid roster by not getting any receivers? And that’s hand waved away? You did that.

Also suggesting that a guy is in the GOAT conversation while also explaining away how a loss as acceptable is incongruent. If he’s the GOAT, he wins this game. He beats the DVOA darlings with the MVP in their house. If he doesn’t win that game, it matters. As a non-Chiefs fan, I’ll tell you right now that I won’t think of him the way people here want me to. Because people here aren’t saying he’s very good—they’re saying he is the greatest to ever do it. Then prove it no matter the circumstances.

If you construct a mid roster and the baby goat loses, you’re not who people on this board are telling me you are. You don’t have the Pats’ cache, not even close. You might think you’re “on track,” but you’re not there just as much as no one here will give credit to Lamar/the Ravens for being “on track” for a Super Bowl when it’s all said and done. You have to actually do it in games like this. Defend your title.

Spinning this narrative that this game is a win/win for the Chiefs should be beneath you if you think these guys are who you say they are.

I know you've gotten the impression that everyone here thinks Mahomes the GOAT or future GOAT or whatever you want to call it. And I mean, you're on a Chiefs board, I don't know what reaction you were expecting from us.

But the reality is, there's a 99% chance that Mahomes won't catch Brady in rings, which already seals the deal for most as far as him ever being regarded as the GOAT. In fact, the two head to head loses to Brady in the playoffs already seals it. That will be hung over his head for the rest of his career. So in reality, he's already out of that conversation, no matter what else happens in his career. If you ask any reasonable Chiefs fan, we don't really care if you think he's the GOAT, we're just happy and thankful that this future HOFer that has saved our franchise is on our team.

But to the rest of your point, he's already slayed teams that are better than his in the postseason. 49ers were favorites. Eagles were favorites. Bills a couple times were considered better because Allen was considered Mahomes equal and the Bills usually had a better defense. The Bengals were considered our kryptonite until we knocked them off. He doesn't have to prove that he can beat better teams, he's already doing it.

And if you look at the Pats, they had about a 10 year stretch of getting knocked out somewhere in the playoffs after those first 3 rings. To suggest that us losing means we aren't the bullies of the AFC is pretty ridiculous when the Patriots had a whole stretch of losing and were still regarded as the big dogs of the AFC.

[digger]

Can we get someone to post the list of teams Mahomes broke to date?

[Iowanian]

I think the funniest part of the raven banter…..is that chiefs fans know the team isn’t as good as it has been overall, we know there are injuries and that our wide receivers dropped more passes this year than Raven fans mothers did babies….and we still have a decent chance at a Super Bowl.

If they don’t win, I’ll be disappointed, but know that the team has an excellent young defense, the best qb in the league and all of the potential in the world to get even better over the next 4~6 years.

Baltimore has had a better season than they expected, playing in a banged up division of jags, and have this shot and then are a kneecap away from Lamar being RG4.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

What exactly went wrong for KC this year? Your GM constructed a mid roster by not getting any receivers? And that’s hand waved away? You did that.

Also suggesting that a guy is in the GOAT conversation while also explaining away how a loss as acceptable is incongruent. If he’s the GOAT, he wins this game. He beats the DVOA darlings with the MVP in their house. If he doesn’t win that game, it matters. As a non-Chiefs fan, I’ll tell you right now that I won’t think of him the way people here want me to. Because people here aren’t saying he’s very good—they’re saying he is the greatest to ever do it. Then prove it no matter the circumstances.

If you construct a mid roster and the baby goat loses, you’re not who people on this board are telling me you are. You don’t have the Pats’ cache, not even close. You might think you’re “on track,” but you’re not there just as much as no one here will give credit to Lamar/the Ravens for being “on track” for a Super Bowl when it’s all said and done. You have to actually do it in games like this. Defend your title.

Spinning this narrative that this game is a win/win for the Chiefs should be beneath you if you think these guys are who you say they are.

You have said yourself it’s a team game. Mahomes cannot control the mistakes of his teammates, like Mecole Hardman fumbling away 7 points last week. How many people hold a negative view of Tom Brady for failing to make the Playoffs in 2002 right after winning a championship? He also failed to win a ring in 15 of 22 seasons while losing to the likes of Ryan Tannehill and Nick Foles.

Chiefs looked dead in the water on Christmas Day. As a guy with more pessimistic views, I was actually somewhat concerned they would lose their final 2 games and miss the Playoffs entirely. I think it’s pretty amazing the Chiefs got their act together enough to make it to the Conference title game. The Ravens are a great TEAM and should win the game.

[Iowanian]

The bengals, browns or Steelers would all have won your division this year if mahomes had been their qb this season.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

They are entirely puffing their chests out because their team took the regular season more seriously than the Chiefs did...and the Chiefs STILL put up identical YPP on both sides of the ball EVEN WITH all the struggles we had on offense. The only thing and I mean ONLY separating the records is fluke turnovers. Playoff Pat showed up...and eviscerated a "more talented" Bills team

You guys really do live on Planet Chiefs. Down here on earth everyone knew the Bills were decimated by injuries as were the Dolphins.

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

But the reality is, there's a 99% chance that Mahomes won't catch Brady in rings, which already seals the deal for most as far as him ever being regarded as the GOAT. In fact, the two head to head loses to Brady in the playoffs already seals it. That will be hung over his head for the rest of his career. So in reality, he's already out of that conversation, no matter what else happens in his career. If you ask any reasonable Chiefs fan, we don't really care if you think he's the GOAT, we're just happy and thankful that this future HOFer that has saved our franchise is on our team.

But it will be so much fun to watch him make it an argument.