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Old 03-07-2024, 10:13 AM  
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:23 PM   #436
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Jones will walk, but will end up back in KC when nobody pays him what he is demanding.
What? He’ll walk AND end up in KC?
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:24 PM   #437
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Jones will walk, but will end up back in KC when nobody pays him what he is demanding.
I don’t share your optimism on that. Once he hits the market someone like the Raiders, Bengals, or Texans will pay him more than the Chiefs want to.
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:27 PM   #438
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What? He’ll walk AND end up in KC?
He will test FA and if nobody gets stupid with a 33m aav type deal mostly guaranteed, Veach will match a deal and structure it to where it makes sense for both sides.

Similar to how the negotiations went with Silverback and the 49ers.

This is all part of the process of CJ95 maxing his earning potential while wanting to stay in KC.
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:27 PM   #439
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:30 PM   #440
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He doesn’t need to sit on anything. KC isn’t going to be making a big first wave of FA type signing and the deal would structure with a low first year cap hit.

Now of Sneed signs a long extension…Jones is gone…but I see us trading Sneed and getting a deal done with CJ once he knows his true open market value.
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:34 PM   #441
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KC isn’t going to be making a big first wave of FA type signing
Veach did just that last year with Taylor. If Veach thinks Jones is gone he is not going to want to wait to secure his targets because the team is not likely to be able to address DT in the draft.
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:45 PM   #442
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At present, all things considered, would it be easier to tag-and-trade Jones or Snead? Also, which player nets the bigger return in a trade? (Don’t forget to consider things like possible health concerns, age, current market for player position, required salary to sign, etc.)
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:47 PM   #443
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At present, all things considered, would it be easier to tag-and-trade Jones or Snead? Also, which player nets the bigger return in a trade? (Don’t forget to consider things like possible health concerns, current market for player position, required salary to sign, etc.)
I think the window to tag players is closed
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:51 PM   #444
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He doesn’t need to sit on anything. KC isn’t going to be making a big first wave of FA type signing and the deal would structure with a low first year cap hit.

Now of Sneed signs a long extension…Jones is gone…but I see us trading Sneed and getting a deal done with CJ once he knows his true open market value.

Nonsense.

See:
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Went to the market, and was replaced instantly, long before he found a landing spot.

Extra money was spent elsewhere in the meantime.


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Old 03-09-2024, 01:58 PM   #445
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He will test FA and if nobody gets stupid with a 33m aav type deal mostly guaranteed, Veach will match a deal and structure it to where it makes sense for both sides.

Similar to how the negotiations went with Silverback and the 49ers.

This is all part of the process of CJ95 maxing his earning potential while wanting to stay in KC.
After dancing this dance for 2 years, both sides knowing where they stand, and let’s not be naive both sides know the offers that await on the market. I think that’s optimistic to put it mildly.

Jones will have his new team about 5 minutes after the tampering period starts
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Old 03-09-2024, 02:09 PM   #446
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He will test FA and if nobody gets stupid with a 33m aav type deal mostly guaranteed, Veach will match a deal and structure it to where it makes sense for both sides.

Similar to how the negotiations went with Silverback and the 49ers.

This is all part of the process of CJ95 maxing his earning potential while wanting to stay in KC.
I don’t see any way Veach waits around for Chris. This has been going on for the better part of a year.

Chris knows what Veach’s line in. Chris and Veach both know what offers are out there through talk at the combine.

Waiting on Chris and missing out on other quality players would be foolish, especially if Chris ends up not working out and Veach doesn’t sign anybody he wants bc he waited for Chris
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After dancing this dance for 2 years, both sides knowing where they stand, and let’s not be naive both sides know the offers that await on the market. I think that’s optimistic to put it mildly.

Jones will have his new team about 5 minutes after the tampering period starts
Yeah, and of course the agents have already been talking to other teams. They know what other teams will pay.
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Let’s be honest with the reality here: the Katz brothers received verbal offers from other teams in Indy and Veach is trying to find a way to get close to them to keep him. If it doesn’t get done by Sunday night then he’s gone.

There is no waiting around for offers to match. They’ve known the offers for over a week.
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