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Old 03-05-2025, 08:16 AM  
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:27 AM   #196
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All this fuss about who to go after on OL. Get a blocking TE and RB that can help on the edges and balance the offense.....takes a lot of pressure off of whoever is going to fill that LT spot
That isn't what the offense wants to do, Andy wants more guys out in the pattern.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:27 AM   #197
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I really really doubt they are gonna put a young LT and a young LG side by side, I just don't see that.
I think playing Suamataia at LG between Tyron Smith and Creed could do wonders for his development, and you if all goes well he could still end up at LT.

I agree, I don't think the Chiefs want a rookie LT and Suamataia on the left side.

Signing a guy like Smith allow them to go into the draft and take the best talent. If a LT falls, take him, if its NT in round 1, take him. In this draft I just think they have to walk about with a DT, RB, and CB in their first four picks. If the other pick in the top 100 is a OT, S, LB, whatever, fine. I just don't want them to go in limited, and I don't want to go in to next season with what we basically had last season at LT.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:29 AM   #198
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I think playing Suamataia at LG between Tyron Smith and Creed could do wonders for his development, and you if all goes well he could still end up at LT.

I agree, I don't think the Chiefs want a rookie LT and Suamataia on the left side.

Signing a guy like Smith allow them to go into the draft and take the best talent. If a LT falls, take him, if its NT in round 1, take him. In this draft I just think they have to walk about with a DT, RB, and CB in their first four picks. If the other pick in the top 100 is a OT, S, LB, whatever, fine. I just don't want them to go in limited, and I don't want to go in to next season with what we basically had last season at LT.
What they really need to do is get a spot to just take the best players in the draft..

It would really suck to not be able to take someone like Burden or Starks because we have to fill a need.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:32 AM   #199
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Tyron Smith makes more sense cap wise. We need a guy to come in here and pug the hole in the dam for a year or two as we draft and develop a LT. In a year or two this team needs to have a guy on a rookie contract playing at LT to make the books work.
I'd love if that kid was Carson Vinson out of Alabama A&M. All the physical tools/traits are there in spades. Some Pro coaching and technique work would easily have him ready to step in.
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Unless there is a cut that they know about or a trade...these LT free agents are less than exciting. I could see Robinson being a stop gap, but not much more... also is he better than a healthy humphries? Smith?

I dunno. Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:39 AM   #201
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yep. as said before - veach was not going to play the tag game with trey if he didn't think the dice would roll his way.

get a deal done with trey. net a 4th. keep the younger asset. profit. what a great start to the off-season man. best mother ****ing GM in football and he's ours.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:42 AM   #202
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Unless there is a cut that they know about or a trade...these LT free agents are less than exciting. I could see Robinson being a stop gap, but not much more... also is he better than a healthy humphries? Smith?

I dunno. Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
Who cares? They're always ****ing hurt, so there's no point in factoring that into the equation here.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:46 AM   #203
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You think Robinson is a lot worse than he is man.

I get he isn't Trent Williams of 2021, but he's a lot better than what we fielded last year at LT and will be better than Donovan Smith was too.

He's firmly in Orlando Brown territory, a superior pass blocker than him and a step back as a run blocker.
Yeah - there's a group of people that seem to believe he's not even a starter. I don't get that at all.

He's an above average pass blocking LT who's going to get paid like an elite one. The contract will suck - the player will not. He'll be fine. An upgrade over anything we've had there since Fisher.
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I'd love if that kid was Carson Vinson out of Alabama A&M. All the physical tools/traits are there in spades. Some Pro coaching and technique work would easily have him ready to step in.
Ready to step in when?
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:46 AM   #205
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Also is this a move so they can pay Bolton?
Another reason why I don't think they'll go after the 1st Tier LT's.

The more I look around I think DJ is coming back on the cheap - Spotrac had his market value at like $2M - and he's self-repped, or way off the grid with a signing or trade we're not expecting.
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Unless there is a cut that they know about or a trade...these LT free agents are less than exciting. I could see Robinson being a stop gap, but not much more... also is he better than a healthy humphries? Smith?

I dunno. Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
But he's not going to be paid like a stop gap which is the problem with Robinson. That dude is going to get 20M a year, which causes our line to be expensive as hell and we have to find a RT in 2026, and lets be honest we will want to be looking for an upgrade at LT. So spending the money on Cam Robinson just doesn't change your situation enough IMO.
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Good point except for the comp pick comment. There is no comp picks awarded for trades. That’s a free agent losses vs gains calculation. But, a 4th round pick for a 33 yr old expensive guard is pretty decent return.
Correct. I was just asking if they didn't trade and let him walk next year we would be in line for a 3rd round comp pick. That assumes the items Staylor listed don't happen or if he doesn't retire etc.

It is all mute anyway..
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Tyron Smith makes more sense cap wise. We need a guy to come in here and pug the hole in the dam for a year or two as we draft and develop a LT. In a year or two this team needs to have a guy on a rookie contract playing at LT to make the books work.
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Boltons 24 years old it's hard for me to think they don't want a second contract there.
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