Carl Peterson's Coaching Decisions - Page 2

**BigRedChief** · 12-21-2006, 07:37 PM

The facts:
Picked Marty- Excellent choice.

But lets see what he has done since we won a playoff game 12 years ago.

Picked Gunter -
Could have had - Bill Bellicheck, Andy Reid and Mike Holgreen

Picked Vermiel - Could have had Herm or Marty

Picked Herm-
Could have had- Payton?

You decide. Good, fair, poor

ck_IN · 12-22-2006, 09:22 AM

Marty was a good choice. We needed an experienced coach that could build a team after our misery of the 80's.

Gun was a bad choice but we were trying to promote from within so I won't critisize it too badly.

Vermeil was a terrible choice. He was only interested in building an offense so he could stroke his ego and prove it was he and not Martz in St. Lou. For Carl it was a last desperate gasp to burnish his rep. The team suffered while both men attempted to stroke their egos. We the fans suffered.

Herm I'll give some fair time to. He has to de-DV this team which will take time and pain. I'd have rather seen a young assistant NFL coach hired so we could grow our own coach instead of having the ex-HC of whomever. I also doubt Herm was worth a draft pick. However he deserves a fair chance.

Priest4Prez · 12-22-2006, 09:36 AM

In my opinion, Herm looked like a good choice on paper. He was "known" for building up defenses. Not offenses. Our defense was headed in the right direction before Herm came to KC. Our offense was in decline. Defense is still on the rise and will get better, but our offense has lost it's luster.

Anyway, I think the coach we need is Pete Carrol. We may not be able to sign him, but he is the right fit for the Chiefs. He brings out the best in his players and is a true coach who doesn't focus on just one aspect of the football. If we could sign him, he could use his college knowledge and draft well.

ck_IN · 12-22-2006, 09:40 AM

No thanks. Pete Carrol pretty much destroyed the Pats before Bill B. took over. He's a great college coach but a proven loser at the NFL level. Much like Steve Spurier.

HonestChieffan · 12-22-2006, 10:12 AM

Can't believe the MU folks have not offered up Pinkel.

Alden could replace Carl...

Priest4Prez · 12-22-2006, 10:20 AM

One would think that he is a proven loser in the NFL. He may have been earlier in his career, but his triumps at USC have made him a better coach. Besides, what makes Herm better than Carrol? Herm completely destroyed the Jets before coming here. Why not pick the best college coach over one of the worst in NFL?

htismaqe · 12-22-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Priest4Prez

One would think that he is a proven loser in the NFL. He may have been earlier in his career, but his triumps at USC have made him a better coach. Besides, what makes Herm better than Carrol? Herm completely destroyed the Jets before coming here. Why not pick the best college coach over one of the worst in NFL?

Because Pete Carroll's methods don't translate to the NFL the way they do to college ball. Think Steve Spurrier.

If we're going to hire a college coach, we should do what the Dolphins did. Personally, I'd love to see Kirk Ferentz coaching the Chiefs.

Reerun_KC · 12-22-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because Pete Carroll's methods don't translate to the NFL the way they do to college ball. Think Steve Spurrier.

If we're going to hire a college coach, we should do what the Dolphins did. Personally, I'd love to see Kirk Ferentz coaching the Chiefs.

Are we being a little bit of a

here?

htismaqe · 12-22-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Are we being a little bit of a

here?

One would think so, but the list of teams that have interviewed him for their HC job over the last 5 years says otherwise...

**Nzoner** · 12-22-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I'm glad to see you gentlemen giving Herm the benefit of the doubt. It once again proves how thoughtful, fair, and honorable ChiefsPlanet members can be when the chips fall out of the bag.

I, however, have seen enough of Herm to realize that he is a liar and a blowhard. He handles himself like an insecure, unassured bonehead clinging to what he thinks will work the last time he checked. Personally, I think he should check a little more often on whatever the hell it is that he checks on because it appears that the last time he checked on anything was about 15 years ago.

I hope he changes my mind because I'd love to see the Chiefs make the playoffs in my lifetime, but so far I haven't seen anything on the field that demonstrates he was worth the pick we gave up for him.

FAX

I agree Mr. Fax,in fact I had seen enough of Herm with the Jets so you know my feelings when he was announced as the Chiefs new coach.

**HemiEd** · 12-22-2006, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because Pete Carroll's methods don't translate to the NFL the way they do to college ball. Think Steve Spurrier.

If we're going to hire a college coach, we should do what the Dolphins did. Personally, I'd love to see Kirk Ferentz coaching the Chiefs.

Is there any Iowa Hawkeye bias there?

Priest4Prez · 12-22-2006, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because Pete Carroll's methods don't translate to the NFL the way they do to college ball. Think Steve Spurrier.

If we're going to hire a college coach, we should do what the Dolphins did. Personally, I'd love to see Kirk Ferentz coaching the Chiefs.

Ok, lets hire the coach of a middle-class Big Ten team. Good call there. Besides, being the cyclone fan that I am, I find this claim absurd. Nick Saban is doing ok. So, why not try Pete Carrol.

htismaqe · 12-22-2006, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Is there any Iowa Hawkeye bias there?

Did you read the subsequent posts?

**HemiEd** · 12-22-2006, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Are we being a little bit of a

here?

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

One would think so, but the list of teams that have interviewed him for their HC job over the last 5 years says otherwise...

oops

htismaqe · 12-22-2006, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest4Prez

Ok, lets hire the coach of a middle-class Big Ten team. Good call there. Besides, being the cyclone fan that I am, I find this claim absurd. Nick Saban is doing ok. So, why not try Pete Carrol.

At least you admit that you're a Cyclone fan. It's obviously clouding your judgement.

Kirk Ferentz is one of the hottest NFL coaching prospects out there. And that's a FACT.

**HemiEd** · 12-22-2006, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Did you read the subsequent posts?

I had not reached them, my bad.

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12-21-2006, 07:37 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-801038 VARSITY	Carl Peterson's Coaching Decisions The facts: Picked Marty- Excellent choice. But lets see what he has done since we won a playoff game 12 years ago. Picked Gunter - Could have had - Bill Bellicheck, Andy Reid and Mike Holgreen Picked Vermiel - Could have had Herm or Marty Picked Herm- Could have had- Payton? You decide. Good, fair, poor
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12-22-2006, 09:22 AM	#16
ck_IN Feels so good. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Marty was a good choice. We needed an experienced coach that could build a team after our misery of the 80's. Gun was a bad choice but we were trying to promote from within so I won't critisize it too badly. Vermeil was a terrible choice. He was only interested in building an offense so he could stroke his ego and prove it was he and not Martz in St. Lou. For Carl it was a last desperate gasp to burnish his rep. The team suffered while both men attempted to stroke their egos. We the fans suffered. Herm I'll give some fair time to. He has to de-DV this team which will take time and pain. I'd have rather seen a young assistant NFL coach hired so we could grow our own coach instead of having the ex-HC of whomever. I also doubt Herm was worth a draft pick. However he deserves a fair chance. __________________ As sweet as Tupelo Honey
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12-22-2006, 09:36 AM	#17
Priest4Prez Vote for Bush/Cheny 08 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho Casino cash: $10004900	Herm seems like the right idea at the time In my opinion, Herm looked like a good choice on paper. He was "known" for building up defenses. Not offenses. Our defense was headed in the right direction before Herm came to KC. Our offense was in decline. Defense is still on the rise and will get better, but our offense has lost it's luster. Anyway, I think the coach we need is Pete Carrol. We may not be able to sign him, but he is the right fit for the Chiefs. He brings out the best in his players and is a true coach who doesn't focus on just one aspect of the football. If we could sign him, he could use his college knowledge and draft well.
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12-22-2006, 09:40 AM	#18
ck_IN Feels so good. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	No thanks. Pete Carrol pretty much destroyed the Pats before Bill B. took over. He's a great college coach but a proven loser at the NFL level. Much like Steve Spurier. __________________ As sweet as Tupelo Honey
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12-22-2006, 10:12 AM	#19
HonestChieffan Seeking the Truth daily Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the Country in MO Casino cash: $-1605691	Can't believe the MU folks have not offered up Pinkel. Alden could replace Carl... __________________ "We read books for knowledge; We read the Bible for wisdom!"
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12-22-2006, 10:20 AM	#20
Priest4Prez Vote for Bush/Cheny 08 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho Casino cash: $10004900	Pete Carrol One would think that he is a proven loser in the NFL. He may have been earlier in his career, but his triumps at USC have made him a better coach. Besides, what makes Herm better than Carrol? Herm completely destroyed the Jets before coming here. Why not pick the best college coach over one of the worst in NFL?
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