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Old 11-09-2007, 11:56 AM  
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:21 PM   #16
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:23 PM   #17
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:23 PM   #18
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:25 PM   #19
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:30 PM   #20
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Probably but the scientists that came up with the idea of fision knew at once that it could/would be weaponised.
History is probably my worst subject. Was not the pressure to quickly develop the A-Bomb due, in large measure, to the fear that Hitler was working on one?

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There would have been tension with the Commies anyway the sides might have not been so unified but it's been there.
Prior to WWII, communism had become a very popular ideology in many circles. But, would it not be fair to say that the West underestimated Stalin after WWII which allowed him to solidify his interests allowing communism to become more powerful as a global force than it would have otherwise, Mr. pikesome?

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A product of WWI political move by a floundering GB, it might not have gotten as bad but the problems were there before WWII.
Hmmm. I was under the impression that the Holocaust was a primary driver in respect to Israel's "re-settlement". No?

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See above, WWI effectivly killed the Briitsh Empire. That's one of the reasons we got the job of "Middle East Cop". We might not have been so gungho to take it if not for WWII but maybe.
I'm assuming that the existence of the state of Israel fostered many of the problems we are currently facing there.

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This is a good point, it's a shame so much was destroyed. I guess that's a good reason not to invade your neighbors and gas millions.
We need to remember that.

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Old 11-09-2007, 12:40 PM   #21
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:47 PM   #22
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:50 PM   #23
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History is probably my worst subject. Was not the pressure to quickly develop the A-Bomb due, in large measure, to the fear that Hitler was working on one?
Yes but part of that was because any physicist with two brain cells knew that atomic power would be a great weapon. WWII sped development true but the idea was there.


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Prior to WWII, communism had become a very popular ideology in many circles. But, would it not be fair to say that the West underestimated Stalin after WWII which allowed him to solidify his interests allowing communism to become more powerful as a global force than it would have otherwise, Mr. pikesome?
Maybe but the Commies vs the West lines were drawn during the 1917 revolution and the distrust following WWI. The West needed Russia to stand but didn't like the Commies. A lot of bad blood came out of the end of the war. We had troops in Russia fighting the Bolsheviks during WWI.



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Hmmm. I was under the impression that the Holocaust was a primary driver in respect to Israel's "re-settlement". No?
One of the harder to believe theories I've heard is that Israel was the price to German Zionists for the Zimmerman Telegram. Even if that's BS, Israel was around before WWII. One of the biggest problems if you ask the Arabs is that GB promised them the area if they fought the Ottomans during WWI (Lawrence of Arabia). Then GB promised it to France also and allowed/encouraged Jewish settlement and ultimately gave it to the Jews. That's a big part of the Arab/Israeli problems beginnings.



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I'm assuming that the existence of the state of Israel fostered many of the problems we are currently facing there.
It did but the abandonment of the area by GB made some of the problems worse as well as let existing problems resurface. There's a lot that added up but the deal with the British is still a sore spot, Al Qaeda mentions it often.
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