What QB do you like in this draft class? - Page 9

suds79 · 04-12-2008, 09:39 AM

In relation to where we’ll have to pick to get him.

Round projection via - http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com

Poll forthcoming...

**PHOG** · 04-13-2008, 02:10 AM

What if nobody wants to pick? 1st,2nd,3rd,4th, Damn IT, Carl!!

, He picks the Keller kid from Purdue? A TE!?!? With the effective 1st overall pick!?!?

That is all.

Just preparing every/any one..

**Dylan** · 04-13-2008, 02:28 AM

Do you remember Quinn was sitting at the green-room table not being picked last year? I felt so sorry for him. I wanted to jump through the TV and give him a hug. aww.

Chiefs=Champions · 04-13-2008, 06:44 AM

This old argument again!!? Well im sorry to say to all the matt ryan fans out there, that when we pick there WILL be better players to choose from. Ellis, dorsey or long Should be there and you do NOT pass on players like that. If the Chiefs pass on one of those guys for a much lesser player such as Ryan, well thats whats wrong with this franchise.

Chiefs=Champions · 04-13-2008, 06:45 AM

Oh and ill go on record saying Henne will be the best of the bunch...

CupidStunt · 04-13-2008, 06:55 AM

Erik Ainge with either of our fifths.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-13-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Also I seem to recall everyone wanting the Chiefs to pick Quinn as he was falling....

In all fairness though, the guy was considered a Top 5-10 pick. Falling to 23 and picking him would have been tremendous value.

If we were picking in the 20's again and Ryan fell like Quinn did, I'd be all over it.

Mosbonian · 04-13-2008, 08:45 AM

I still haven't seen any of the Brohm and Woodson fans (except Mecca) tell me why they would be a good pick.

mmaddog
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**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-13-2008, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmaddog

I still haven't seen any of the Brohm and Woodson fans (except Mecca) tell me why they would be a good pick.

mmaddog
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Because Brohm threw for eleventy-billion yards against inferior competition, don't you watch CFB?

Coogs · 04-13-2008, 09:12 AM

This is just my opinion. If Ryan is there at #5 you take him and don't look back. If he is not there, I am not even sure I would draft a QB this year. We already have a third round pick and a late round pick from the past two years drafts. No sense in throwing another one in the mix just yet.

Ryan at 5 if he is there... or none at all. Fix the rest of the spots as much as possible.

Mosbonian · 04-13-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Because Brohm threw for eleventy-billion yards against inferior competition, don't you watch CFB?

I saw wayyyyyyy to much of both players this year.

mmaddog
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Otter · 04-13-2008, 10:56 AM

Chad Henne in the 3rd or later brought in for competition and possibly taking over would be the only QB move I'd like to see this year.

Between him and Brodie one of them will likely wrap up the QB problem for the next couple years.

Just way too many needs to take one earlier imho.

milkman · 04-13-2008, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter

Chad Henne in the 3rd or later brought in for competition and possibly taking over would be the only QB move I'd like to see this year.

Between him and Brodie one of them will likely wrap up the QB problem for the next couple years.

Just way too many needs to take one earlier imho.

The fact that this team has so many needs is one of the worst aguments for drafting to fill a need I can think of.

There aren't any positions on this team that can't be upgraded, including QB.

Draft the BPA, cause almost any player we look at in any round will certainly be a player that fills a position of need.

**Dylan** · 04-13-2008, 01:36 PM

With all due respect, I believe you don't just draft players, they have to fit into a team's pressing needs. Instead of risking that a certain player would be available later on - select him on the spot.

The Jets agreed to a contract extension with their safety this week -- a reported five years, over $30 MM, and that plays into their draft strategy.

Here's an interested article published by the Plain Dealer on QB Anderson and Brady Quinn.

(Tony Grossi, Plain Dealer beat reporter for the Cleveland Browns)

Plain Dealer Newspaper
Browns' QB status no controversy to opponents
by [email protected] April 02, 2008

Palm Beach, Fla. -- In Cleveland, the debate between Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn no doubt will burn hot for another year at least.
But coaches and personnel experts interviewed this week at NFL league meetings were unanimous in saying the Browns have done the right thing with their quarterbacks.

"Obviously, the bold move they made a year ago paid off for them," Cincinnati coach Marvin Lewis said.

"I'm talking about putting Anderson in and trading Charlie [Frye] and moving on. I think with the other 52 guys -- or 51, because I don't know that Brady's fine with it -- they know who their quarterback is. That's a huge step for a football team. You have to make that step to win."

Nobody here expressed the opinion that signing Anderson to a three-year deal after trading a No. 1 to select Quinn the year before automatically creates a quarterback controversy.

"The controversy would come if they didn't keep Derek," said Pat Kirwan, a former Jets assistant coach and front office employee now with NFL.com.

"Those receivers were going to go crazy. [Kellen] Winslow and [Braylon] Edwards, they're making the Pro Bowl right now with Derek Anderson delivering the mail. They don't want to go backwards. They know that guy gets the ball to them, and they have an open attack. Why would they take a risk to switch out?"

Not even Phil Savage can say, however, how long Anderson's reign as the starting quarterback will continue.

"Derek, he's a little bit more of an unknown," the Browns' general manager said. "He just kind of came from the hinterlands and all of a sudden ends up in Hawaii [in the Pro Bowl]. Now we'll see if he can build off that. It was worth the investment for us to see if he can go further with what he did last year."

And if he doesn't?

"That contract does not lock Derek down," Kirwan said. "Here's what Phil said to me a hundred times: 'I made sure that we are good for 2008. Then we'll figure it out.' And I don't think that means you trade Brady Quinn if he's great. If [Anderson's] great, you're going to play out the three-year deal. If he's not great, they move Derek and give the kid a chance.

"If he has three games at the beginning like the Cincinnati game [in December] ..."

So far, Quinn is the victim of bad timing.

He slipped down the draft board a year ago because Miami passed on him at No.¤9, and then came a long run of teams uninterested in drafting a quarterback first. He had a contract dispute in training camp, partly as a result of the Browns wanting to sort out the Frye vs. Anderson debacle. Then Anderson buried him on the bench with a totally unanticipated breakout year.

If Quinn were coming out of Notre Dame this year, experts here said, he would be considered with Boston College's Matt Ryan as the draft's top quarterback.

"That would be a tough debate," Minnesota coach Brad Childress said. "Apples and oranges. Either one could be the top one taken."

"I think they're real close," Kirwan said. "I think this year, unlike last year, more teams need a quarterback in the top¤10. I don't think either one would go to Atlanta at No.¤3. The first interest might be Kansas City at 5. And then the one not taken would probably go to Baltimore at No.¤8."

This year's No.¤8 overall pick will exceed the $15.4 million in guaranteed money given the 2007 selection, Jamaal Anderson of Atlanta. Quinn got about $7.8 million in guarantees. So, factors totally out of Quinn's hands have been costly to him.

But Savage and coach Romeo Crennel insist that Quinn can and will handle the situation.

"His state of mind is that he's got good enough ability to be the starting quarterback for the Browns and that's what he's going to try to be," Crennel said. "He understands there's a competition and there's a guy ahead of him, but that doesn't diminish his confidence in himself or diminish his ability at all."

Gruden never met a quarterback he didn't like, but he seems particularly impressed with Quinn.

"It seems like a heckuva trade to me, to get him 22nd [last year]," he said. "Who knows what'll happen? Derek's a heckuva story. Whether it works in Brady's favor in Cleveland or not, they have two really good young quarterbacks and that's a lot more than some of us can say.

"That's an exciting team, man, to have those two guys. This is a quarterback-driven league."

(*speculation on Kansas City part) -- I hate speculation -- welcome to the world of sports writing.

http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/200...vers.html#more

Frankie · 04-13-2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter

Chad Henne in the 3rd or later brought in for competition and possibly taking over would be the only QB move I'd like to see this year.

That's exactly my sentiment.

View Poll Results: What QB do you like in this draft class?
Matt Ryan: 5th pick in the draft	35	36.46%
Brian Brohm: 1st rounder	15	15.63%
Joe Flacco: 2nd – 3rd rounder	19	19.79%
Chad Henne: 2nd – 3rd rounder	15	15.63%
Andre Woodson: 2nd – 3rd rounder	10	10.42%
John David Booty: 2nd – 3rd rounder	4	4.17%
Colt Brennan: Mid rounder	10	10.42%
Erik Ainge: Mid rounder	8	8.33%
Other	8	8.33%
I don’t like any of the QBs in this year’s class	13	13.54%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll

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04-13-2008, 02:28 AM	#122
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Chiefs=Champions Training Camp Hero Join Date: Oct 2006 Casino cash: $7974801	This old argument again!!? Well im sorry to say to all the matt ryan fans out there, that when we pick there WILL be better players to choose from. Ellis, dorsey or long Should be there and you do NOT pass on players like that. If the Chiefs pass on one of those guys for a much lesser player such as Ryan, well thats whats wrong with this franchise.
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Chiefs=Champions Training Camp Hero Join Date: Oct 2006 Casino cash: $7974801	Oh and ill go on record saying Henne will be the best of the bunch...
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04-13-2008, 09:12 AM	#129
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2265651	This is just my opinion. If Ryan is there at #5 you take him and don't look back. If he is not there, I am not even sure I would draft a QB this year. We already have a third round pick and a late round pick from the past two years drafts. No sense in throwing another one in the mix just yet. Ryan at 5 if he is there... or none at all. Fix the rest of the spots as much as possible.
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04-13-2008, 01:36 PM	#133
Dylan The Lede Join Date: Aug 2007 Casino cash: $10016591	With all due respect, I believe you don't just draft players, they have to fit into a team's pressing needs. Instead of risking that a certain player would be available later on - select him on the spot. The Jets agreed to a contract extension with their safety this week -- a reported five years, over $30 MM, and that plays into their draft strategy. Here's an interested article published by the Plain Dealer on QB Anderson and Brady Quinn. (Tony Grossi, Plain Dealer beat reporter for the Cleveland Browns) Plain Dealer Newspaper Browns' QB status no controversy to opponents by [email protected] April 02, 2008 Palm Beach, Fla. -- In Cleveland, the debate between Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn no doubt will burn hot for another year at least. But coaches and personnel experts interviewed this week at NFL league meetings were unanimous in saying the Browns have done the right thing with their quarterbacks. "Obviously, the bold move they made a year ago paid off for them," Cincinnati coach Marvin Lewis said. "I'm talking about putting Anderson in and trading Charlie [Frye] and moving on. I think with the other 52 guys -- or 51, because I don't know that Brady's fine with it -- they know who their quarterback is. That's a huge step for a football team. You have to make that step to win." Nobody here expressed the opinion that signing Anderson to a three-year deal after trading a No. 1 to select Quinn the year before automatically creates a quarterback controversy. "The controversy would come if they didn't keep Derek," said Pat Kirwan, a former Jets assistant coach and front office employee now with NFL.com. "Those receivers were going to go crazy. [Kellen] Winslow and [Braylon] Edwards, they're making the Pro Bowl right now with Derek Anderson delivering the mail. They don't want to go backwards. They know that guy gets the ball to them, and they have an open attack. Why would they take a risk to switch out?" Not even Phil Savage can say, however, how long Anderson's reign as the starting quarterback will continue. "Derek, he's a little bit more of an unknown," the Browns' general manager said. "He just kind of came from the hinterlands and all of a sudden ends up in Hawaii [in the Pro Bowl]. Now we'll see if he can build off that. It was worth the investment for us to see if he can go further with what he did last year." And if he doesn't? "That contract does not lock Derek down," Kirwan said. "Here's what Phil said to me a hundred times: 'I made sure that we are good for 2008. Then we'll figure it out.' And I don't think that means you trade Brady Quinn if he's great. If [Anderson's] great, you're going to play out the three-year deal. If he's not great, they move Derek and give the kid a chance. "If he has three games at the beginning like the Cincinnati game [in December] ..." So far, Quinn is the victim of bad timing. He slipped down the draft board a year ago because Miami passed on him at No.¤9, and then came a long run of teams uninterested in drafting a quarterback first. He had a contract dispute in training camp, partly as a result of the Browns wanting to sort out the Frye vs. Anderson debacle. Then Anderson buried him on the bench with a totally unanticipated breakout year. If Quinn were coming out of Notre Dame this year, experts here said, he would be considered with Boston College's Matt Ryan as the draft's top quarterback. "That would be a tough debate," Minnesota coach Brad Childress said. "Apples and oranges. Either one could be the top one taken." "I think they're real close," Kirwan said. "I think this year, unlike last year, more teams need a quarterback in the top¤10. I don't think either one would go to Atlanta at No.¤3. The first interest might be Kansas City at 5. And then the one not taken would probably go to Baltimore at No.¤8." This year's No.¤8 overall pick will exceed the $15.4 million in guaranteed money given the 2007 selection, Jamaal Anderson of Atlanta. Quinn got about $7.8 million in guarantees. So, factors totally out of Quinn's hands have been costly to him. But Savage and coach Romeo Crennel insist that Quinn can and will handle the situation. "His state of mind is that he's got good enough ability to be the starting quarterback for the Browns and that's what he's going to try to be," Crennel said. "He understands there's a competition and there's a guy ahead of him, but that doesn't diminish his confidence in himself or diminish his ability at all." Gruden never met a quarterback he didn't like, but he seems particularly impressed with Quinn. "It seems like a heckuva trade to me, to get him 22nd [last year]," he said. "Who knows what'll happen? Derek's a heckuva story. Whether it works in Brady's favor in Cleveland or not, they have two really good young quarterbacks and that's a lot more than some of us can say. "That's an exciting team, man, to have those two guys. This is a quarterback-driven league." (*speculation on Kansas City part) -- I hate speculation -- welcome to the world of sports writing. http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/200...vers.html#more
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