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Old 04-25-2008, 07:38 PM   #1
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Championships are won by star players....especially at the QB position.

Either way you don't value or devalue position over player 99% of the time. Especially when you are the Chiefs and in this spot they should be valuing players over positions.

Star Players. How stupid can you be, have you ever played or coach football past pee wee or middle school? JW?


Last time I check Eli Manning isn't a "star" QB. He can be very good at times, but by no means a star. And what the hell are these "star" athletes going to do when every play there is a big DL or LB in their face 3 yards into the backfield because no one can block for them? Please explain this to me, you obviously know what your talking about.
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:43 PM   #2
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Star Players. How stupid can you be, have you ever played or coach football past pee wee or middle school? JW?


Last time I check Eli Manning isn't a "star" QB. He can be very good at times, but by no means a star. And what the hell are these "star" athletes going to do when every play there is a big DL or LB in their face 3 yards into the backfield because no one can block for them? Please explain this to me, you obviously know what your talking about.
Hate to point this out to you, jackfuck, but Michael Strahan, Plax Burress, Osi Umenyiora, and Antonio Pierce are stars.
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:44 PM   #3
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Hate to point this out to you, jackfuck, but Michael Strahan, Plax Burress, Osi Umenyiora, and Antonio Pierce are stars.
Shh, they obviously don't count...
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:45 PM   #4
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Hate to point this out to you, jackfuck, but Michael Strahan, Plax Burress, Osi Umenyiora, and Antonio Pierce are stars.
Pierce? Compared to our linebackers or the rest of the league?
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:54 PM   #5
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Hate to point this out to you, jackfuck, but Michael Strahan, Plax Burress, Osi Umenyiora, and Antonio Pierce are stars.

Yes, and two of them are linemen.


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Old 04-25-2008, 07:50 PM   #6
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Star Players. How stupid can you be, have you ever played or coach football past pee wee or middle school? JW?


Last time I check Eli Manning isn't a "star" QB. He can be very good at times, but by no means a star. And what the hell are these "star" athletes going to do when every play there is a big DL or LB in their face 3 yards into the backfield because no one can block for them? Please explain this to me, you obviously know what your talking about.

Eli played like a star during the playoffs so i'd say he became a star this past post season.

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Old 04-25-2008, 07:55 PM   #7
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Eli played like a star during the playoffs so i'd say he became a star this past post season.

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He was very inconsistent, I'm not saying he wont be, but he wasn't this season. Although he did play very well in the Playoffs.
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He was very inconsistent, I'm not saying he wont be, but he wasn't this season. Although he did play very well in the Playoffs.

60% completions(yeah that's not great but it ain't bad) and 6to1 TD/INT ratio playing in some awful conditions some of the time and he made the plays when he had to for the Giants to win.

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Old 04-25-2008, 07:53 PM   #9
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Last time I check Eli Manning isn't a "star" QB. He can be very good at times, but by no means a star. And what the hell are these "star" athletes going to do when every play there is a big DL or LB in their face 3 yards into the backfield because no one can block for them? Please explain this to me, you obviously know what your talking about.
Do you realize Eli made several huge plays down the stretch and in the playoffs for the Giants??? The Giants would not have won the Super Bowl without him.
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Do you realize Eli made several huge plays down the stretch and in the playoffs for the Giants??? The Giants would not have won the Super Bowl without him.
Actually, any number of qbs could have done what he did.
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Actually, any number of qbs could have done what he did.

Perhaps....but dont knock Eli for making the plays when he had to.
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Perhaps....but dont knock Eli for making the plays when he had to.
I give him every bit of credit for not screwing it up. However, I would also put his odds pretty long on ever doing it again.
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