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Molitoth · 04-25-2008, 08:38 AM

So Sad. 7 Game slide.

KC_Connection · 04-25-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by markk

so, no demerits for not getting any of the next 6 batters or so I guess?

not beating up on him, he's a fine pitcher. perhaps the term was too strong.

Well considering the inning would have been over had his SS made a simple catch and throw, no, I don't really take too much into that. Especially when you consider not one of the balls was hit hard at all.

**petegz28** · 04-25-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Well considering the inning would have been over had his SS made a simple catch and throw, no, I don't really take too much into that. Especially when you consider not one of the balls was hit hard at all.

In all fairness the 1st baseman wiffed on that. It was not that hard of a ball to dig out considering it took a nice big hop. Bad throw yes, but bad defense too.

KC_Connection · 04-25-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

In all fairness the 1st baseman wiffed on that. It was not that hard of a ball to dig out considering it took a nice big hop. Bad throw yes, but bad defense too.

I'm referring to the play in the 8th inning. When it was 4-3.

Though the one you're referring to was an especially bad play by Eckstein earlier that cost a run.

**petegz28** · 04-25-2008, 09:11 PM

Grienke and Bannister continue to impress. Meche needs to get his shit together. If he does we can have 3 bad ass starters this year.

**petegz28** · 04-25-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I'm referring to the play in the 8th inning. When it was 4-3.

Though the one you're referring to was an especially bad play by Eckstein earlier that cost a run.

He should of turned it yes but I thought the pitcher should of just gone to 1st anyway. It was going to be a really tough DP to turn. In replay maybe not but when I saw the pitcher go to 2nd I was like "yes!" cause I knew the inning would keep going.

Adept Havelock · 04-25-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Grienke and Bannister continue to impress. Meche needs to get his shit together. If he does we can have 3 bad ass starters this year.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I still think Meche will at least get back to where he was last year.

KC_Connection · 04-25-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

He should of turned it yes but I thought the pitcher should of just gone to 1st anyway. It was going to be a really tough DP to turn. In replay maybe not but when I saw the pitcher go to 2nd I was like "yes!" cause I knew the inning would keep going.

Are you serious? With Ross Gload running at first base, the obvious play is to 2nd for a DP. The only other situation that you even consider is throwing home to prevent the run from scoring.

1st base doesn't even come into the equation. This is basic baseball knowledge here.

**petegz28** · 04-25-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

Maybe I'm crazy, but I still think Meche will at least get back to where he was last year.

I think he will too. I cant slam Nunez too much tonight. He hit one guy yes but the others earned their trips on base. No walks. He has been solid until tonight, so can't slam him for not being perfect. Guillen did not help that inning at all by throwing to 3rd though instead of 2nd.

Adept Havelock · 04-25-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I think he will too. I cant slam Nunez too much tonight. He hit one guy yes but the others earned their trips on base. No walks. He has been solid until tonight, so can't slam him for not being perfect. Guillen did not help that inning at all by throwing to 3rd though instead of 2nd.

I missed the rally. Switched channels at 9:00 PM.

That's what I get for being more of a sci-fi geek than a baseball geek.

**petegz28** · 04-25-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Are you serious? With Ross Gload running at first base, the obvious play is to 2nd for a DP. The only other situation that you even consider is throwing home to prevent the run from scoring.

1st base doesn't even come into the equation. This is basic baseball knowledge here.

I'm just telling you the gut feeling I had. I am not saying it was a dumb play. I just felt like the way it was happening 1st base was the option then.

markk · 04-25-2008, 09:18 PM

it doesn't matter if eckstein drops the ball, it's still his job to get them out with as little damage as possible. you can't make the case that he was effective in any way there, and the way that play was happening, i dont think they had a sure out at first anyway.

**petegz28** · 04-25-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

I missed the rally.

That's what I get for being more of a sci-fi geek than a baseball geek.

little bit of luck, little bit of timely hitting, some great baserunning....we capitalized on the opportunities that presented themselves.

KC_Connection · 04-25-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I'm just telling you the gut feeling I had. I am not saying it was a dumb play. I just felt like the way it was happening 1st base was the option then.

So you're saying it was wrong because you had a gut feeling?

If Eckstein had caught the ball and thrown to 1st, the inning would have been over, and the game likely would have ended 4-3. Ross Gload isn't fast enough to run that out, it wasn't like it was a slow grounder.

KC_Connection · 04-25-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by markk

it doesn't matter if eckstein drops the ball, it's still his job to get them out with as little damage as possible. you can't make the case that he was effective in any way there, and the way that play was happening, i dont think they had a sure out at first anyway.

I didn't say he was effective, did I?

He didn't get shelled by the Royals, as you seem to be suggesting though. He got the DP ball that would have got him out of the inning, and then allowed a series of bloopers and grounders that found holes. So no, he could have been better, but that was awful luck for a pitcher in that situation.

**petegz28** · 04-25-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

So you're saying it was wrong because you had a gut feeling?

If Eckstein had caught the ball and thrown to 1st, the inning would have been over, and the game likely would have ended 4-3. Ross Gload isn't fast enough to run that out, it wasn't like it was a slow grounder.

I'm just telling you what vibe I was getting from the game. Your team was struggling defensivley so the best thing the Royals could of done was put the pressure on you to turnw hat should of been a game clinching DP.

The way the game was going I felt like the Royals would benefit from that so I got excited watching the pitcher throwing it too second. I knew the second he threw it there would be no dp.

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