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View Poll Results: Which would you rather have?
Devastating defensive line with Jared Allen 19 33.33%
Patchwork DL and three rookies 38 66.67%
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:59 PM   #1
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For some reason Jaws has always been a Chiefs guy. I don't know why, but I like it.
Maybe because Carl Peterson drafted him?

Maybe because Dick Vermeil coached him?

Maybe because Carl Peterson gave him a job in 1989 when no one else would?

Or maybe he's just being loyal to friends.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:57 PM   #2
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Jaws will never do it. He's part of the secret Herm Edwards fan club. I'm President. Our motto is "At the end of the day, you play to win the game."

So, when was the moment where you flip-flopped from HERM WARFARE president... to Secret Herm Edwards Fan club?

Was it the playoff loss to the Colts that won you over? Or was it the 4-12 season?

Can you pinpoint the precise moment that made you swoon from left to right?
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:04 AM   #3
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So, when was the moment where you flip-flopped from HERM WARFARE president... to Secret Herm Edwards Fan club?

Was it the playoff loss to the Colts that won you over? Or was it the 4-12 season?

Can you pinpoint the precise moment that made you swoon from left to right?
Probably the 49ers game.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:35 PM   #4
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If we don't trade Allen, and Dorsey falls to 5 (I don't see why he wouldn't have...), I don't think we draft him.

Why do I believe that? Because without that 17th pick, we don't have any possibility at all of getting both Dorsey and Albert, and in that situation, I think they ultimately decide to fill the greater need in Albert. So that extra pick, in my opinion, is what got us Dorsey.

And I think this is probably a whole different draft top-to-bottom if it goes that way. There was a weird kind of momentum for us. A synchronicity. Things just fell our way, and it started with Dorsey. They (literally) got every player they wanted yesterday (I don't know how many people caught this, but apparently Herm told Jaworski the 3 guys we wanted just before the draft started, and we got every one of them...), and that just doesn't happen if Jared's on this roster. It can't happen, because we don't have the picks...

So, personally, I take the draft. I think Dorsey and Albert (and Flowers) are more important to this team than Allen would have been.
Yep.... things just went right for KC... for once.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:38 PM   #5
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Yep.... things just went right for KC... for once.
Amen, I had very serious doubts but after seeing the way the draft went down I understand why they made the trade.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:39 PM   #6
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Yep.... things just went right for KC... for once.
I'm sorry but I don't like the 3rd round picks. We should have shored up our OL not gotten back ups.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:45 PM   #7
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I'm sorry but I don't like the 3rd round picks. We should have shored up our OL not gotten back ups.
This is just my perspective, but I think you're thinking too short-term. It's not about whether they're starting in 2008; it's about them starting in 2009 and beyond. And I think it's possible (or probable, even) that all three of them will be key players for the Chiefs in the next three years. And even with that said, I think it's possible that all three will be playing a lot in '08, particularly the safety and the tight end (assuming he can get/stay healthy; he's the risky pick) both of whom could/should be starting at some point this year. The RB has a little more in front of him, but even so, with his speed, I'd bet they'll find a way to use him...
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:50 PM   #8
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I'm sorry but I don't like the 3rd round picks. We should have shored up our OL not gotten back ups.
DaJuan Morgan is already our best safety. The guy may be the most talented safety in the draft. He's a special player.

Jamaal Charles is exactly what our team needs.

Sometimes I think that people just assume that a football team is 22 players plus a kicker, punter, return man, and a long snapper. It's not. You need guys like Charles, and he fills a vital role that is far more important than just a backup.

He's going to be our third down back, and he can gash defenses with his speed. I guarantee you that he's got more breakaway speed than maybe any back but Chris Johnson (even if McFadden's 40 was faster).
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DaJuan Morgan is already our best safety. The guy may be the most talented safety in the draft. He's a special player.

Jamaal Charles is exactly what our team needs.

Sometimes I think that people just assume that a football team is 22 players plus a kicker, punter, return man, and a long snapper. It's not. You need guys like Charles, and he fills a vital role that is far more important than just a backup.

He's going to be our third down back, and he can gash defenses with his speed. I guarantee you that he's got more breakaway speed than maybe any back but Chris Johnson (even if McFadden's 40 was faster).
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:06 AM   #10
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DaJuan Morgan is already our best safety. The guy may be the most talented safety in the draft. He's a special player.

Jamaal Charles is exactly what our team needs.

Sometimes I think that people just assume that a football team is 22 players plus a kicker, punter, return man, and a long snapper. It's not. You need guys like Charles, and he fills a vital role that is far more important than just a backup.

He's going to be our third down back, and he can gash defenses with his speed. I guarantee you that he's got more breakaway speed than maybe any back but Chris Johnson (even if McFadden's 40 was faster).
Valid points. Not disputing tthe picks on the basis that they suck. I'm saying that OL was a greater need and we could have used the last 3 rounder and the 5th rounder to pick one of the guys that I listed.
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DaJuan Morgan is already our best safety. The guy may be the most talented safety in the draft. He's a special player.

Jamaal Charles is exactly what our team needs.

Sometimes I think that people just assume that a football team is 22 players plus a kicker, punter, return man, and a long snapper. It's not. You need guys like Charles, and he fills a vital role that is far more important than just a backup.
He's going to be our third down back, and he can gash defenses with his speed. I guarantee you that he's got more breakaway speed than maybe any back but Chris Johnson (even if McFadden's 40 was faster).
Just curious: did you play any football in high school? College?
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:49 PM   #12
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DaJuan Morgan is already our best safety. The guy may be the most talented safety in the draft. He's a special player.

Jamaal Charles is exactly what our team needs.

Sometimes I think that people just assume that a football team is 22 players plus a kicker, punter, return man, and a long snapper. It's not. You need guys like Charles, and he fills a vital role that is far more important than just a backup.

He's going to be our third down back, and he can gash defenses with his speed. I guarantee you that he's got more breakaway speed than maybe any back but Chris Johnson (even if McFadden's 40 was faster).
thank you....depth and rotations are something most fans over look...heck look at the giants. they rotate running backs and D line and won a superbowl with it.
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:40 AM   #13
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If we don't trade Allen, and Dorsey falls to 5 (I don't see why he wouldn't have...), I don't think we draft him.

Why do I believe that? Because without that 17th pick, we don't have any possibility at all of getting both Dorsey and Albert, and in that situation, I think they ultimately decide to fill the greater need in Albert. So that extra pick, in my opinion, is what got us Dorsey.

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So, personally, I take the draft. I think Dorsey and Albert (and Flowers) are more important to this team than Allen would have been.
I agree with your observation. I found it surprising that Herm told a member of the media who they wanted, ahead of time. Fortunately, Jaws has some integrity.
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