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Devastating defensive line with Jared Allen 19 33.33%
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:12 PM  
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The hypothetical Jared Allen/rookies poll
Would you rather have

Jared Allen lining up next to Alfonso Boone, Glenn Dorsey and Tamba Hali

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Our current patchwork DL

And Branden Albert, Brad Cottam and DaJuan Morgan?


I guess I'll only be satisfied with the trade if Albert turns out to be a stud LT and Cottam is the long-term replacement for Gonzalez. Morgan would be gravy.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:41 PM   #16
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If we hadn't traded Allen, Dorsey wouldn't have fallen to #5 and we would have reached on Ryan Clady. That's just how the universe works.
yes. I think you are probably right.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:43 PM   #17
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Jaws will never do it. He's part of the secret Herm Edwards fan club. I'm President. Our motto is "At the end of the day, you play to win the game."
For some reason Jaws has always been a Chiefs guy. I don't know why, but I like it.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:45 PM   #18
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For some reason Jaws has always been a Chiefs guy. I don't know why, but I like it.
Well, he was here for a cup of coffee and a thorough piss pounding in the late 80's. Plus CP, Herm, and Vermeil all have obvious Philly ties.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:45 PM   #19
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I'm sorry but I don't like the 3rd round picks. We should have shored up our OL not gotten back ups.
This is just my perspective, but I think you're thinking too short-term. It's not about whether they're starting in 2008; it's about them starting in 2009 and beyond. And I think it's possible (or probable, even) that all three of them will be key players for the Chiefs in the next three years. And even with that said, I think it's possible that all three will be playing a lot in '08, particularly the safety and the tight end (assuming he can get/stay healthy; he's the risky pick) both of whom could/should be starting at some point this year. The RB has a little more in front of him, but even so, with his speed, I'd bet they'll find a way to use him...
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:48 PM   #20
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For some reason Jaws has always been a Chiefs guy. I don't know why, but I like it.
He has been since Vermeil. And of course he played with Herm...
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I'm sorry but I don't like the 3rd round picks. We should have shored up our OL not gotten back ups.
DaJuan Morgan is already our best safety. The guy may be the most talented safety in the draft. He's a special player.

Jamaal Charles is exactly what our team needs.

Sometimes I think that people just assume that a football team is 22 players plus a kicker, punter, return man, and a long snapper. It's not. You need guys like Charles, and he fills a vital role that is far more important than just a backup.

He's going to be our third down back, and he can gash defenses with his speed. I guarantee you that he's got more breakaway speed than maybe any back but Chris Johnson (even if McFadden's 40 was faster).
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I like Charles, but he's not a real physical player, and I think he's going to have to work his ass off on the blocking if they really do plan to use him at all on 3rd down.

'course, that said, LJ doesn't exactly stand people up, either...
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Jaws will never do it. He's part of the secret Herm Edwards fan club. I'm President. Our motto is "At the end of the day, you play to win the game."

So, when was the moment where you flip-flopped from HERM WARFARE president... to Secret Herm Edwards Fan club?

Was it the playoff loss to the Colts that won you over? Or was it the 4-12 season?

Can you pinpoint the precise moment that made you swoon from left to right?
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DaJuan Morgan is already our best safety. The guy may be the most talented safety in the draft. He's a special player.

Jamaal Charles is exactly what our team needs.

Sometimes I think that people just assume that a football team is 22 players plus a kicker, punter, return man, and a long snapper. It's not. You need guys like Charles, and he fills a vital role that is far more important than just a backup.

He's going to be our third down back, and he can gash defenses with his speed. I guarantee you that he's got more breakaway speed than maybe any back but Chris Johnson (even if McFadden's 40 was faster).
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I like Charles, but he's not a real physical player, and I think he's going to have to work his ass off on the blocking if they really do plan to use him at all on 3rd down.

'course, that said, LJ doesn't exactly stand people up, either...
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For some reason Jaws has always been a Chiefs guy. I don't know why, but I like it.
Maybe because Carl Peterson drafted him?

Maybe because Dick Vermeil coached him?

Maybe because Carl Peterson gave him a job in 1989 when no one else would?

Or maybe he's just being loyal to friends.
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So, when was the moment where you flip-flopped from HERM WARFARE president... to Secret Herm Edwards Fan club?

Was it the playoff loss to the Colts that won you over? Or was it the 4-12 season?

Can you pinpoint the precise moment that made you swoon from left to right?
Probably the 49ers game.
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:06 AM   #28
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DaJuan Morgan is already our best safety. The guy may be the most talented safety in the draft. He's a special player.

Jamaal Charles is exactly what our team needs.

Sometimes I think that people just assume that a football team is 22 players plus a kicker, punter, return man, and a long snapper. It's not. You need guys like Charles, and he fills a vital role that is far more important than just a backup.

He's going to be our third down back, and he can gash defenses with his speed. I guarantee you that he's got more breakaway speed than maybe any back but Chris Johnson (even if McFadden's 40 was faster).
Valid points. Not disputing tthe picks on the basis that they suck. I'm saying that OL was a greater need and we could have used the last 3 rounder and the 5th rounder to pick one of the guys that I listed.
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Valid points. Not disputing tthe picks on the basis that they suck. I'm saying that OL was a greater need and we could have used the last 3 rounder and the 5th rounder to pick one of the guys that I listed.
Hey man, I wasn't a big fan of the Cottam pick, but I understand why you'd be enticed by him. Were I the Chiefs, I would have probably gone Reggie Smith, Zuttah, and then Morgan just based upon drafting BPA.

The only thing that sucked about that round is that Ellis went before our first pick, Smith right before our second, and Doucet right before our third. But we didn't panic.

With that being said, Morgan is still a great player, Charles fills a definitive need and was good value there (Detroit should have taken him @ the top of the round if they wanted a RB), and Cottam has great potential.

The reason why I think they passed on Zuttah is that they like what they have with Niswanger and Taylor, and given that we also picked up Albert and Richardson, you can't say that the cupboard is bare. We aren't going to trot out asshats like Svitek, Welbourne, Terry, and Turley this year. The o-line is already immensely more talented, healthier, and younger.
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Hey man, I wasn't a big fan of the Cottam pick, but I understand why you'd be enticed by him. Were I the Chiefs, I would have probably gone Reggie Smith, Zuttah, and then Morgan just based upon drafting BPA.

The only thing that sucked about that round is that Ellis went before our first pick, Smith right before our second, and Doucet right before our third. But we didn't panic.

With that being said, Morgan is still a great player, Charles fills a definitive need and was good value there (Detroit should have taken him @ the top of the round if they wanted a RB), and Cottam has great potential.

The reason why I think they passed on Zuttah is that they like what they have with Niswanger and Taylor, and given that we also picked up Albert and Richardson, you can't say that the cupboard is bare. We aren't going to trot out asshats like Svitek, Welbourne, Terry, and Turley this year. The o-line is already immensely more talented, healthier, and younger.
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Cody Wallace out of Texas A&M
Anthony Collins out of Kansas
Tony Hills out of Texas
Ray Shuenning out of Orgon State
Carl Nicks out of Nebraska

Any of those would have been okay with me.
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