NFL Draft Herm out-scouted the entire NFL. - Page 5

Direckshun · 04-28-2008, 12:29 AM

Say that out loud. Or just type it out.

It's truly amazing what they did. They out-scouted the entire NFL not just in rookies, but in what other teams wanted and were looking for (note how they beat the Eagles to Albert). They out-scouted them with small school players, they out-scouted Draft experts, they out-scouted everybody.

Merritt's the perfect example. Everybody who heard about Central Florida watched their games for Kevin Smith. But the Chiefs watched the games, and they came away with a high opinion of a blocking tight end with a massive frame that nobody else in the NFL even acknowledged existed.

Carr as a 5th rounder looks like amazing value for one of the best CBs to have played in DII over the last decade or so, and has the measurables to compete in the NFL.

This is just a great weekend for Chiefs fans. A time not to just enjoy your team but to be proud of them. Who the hell knew Herm was capable of this?

FringeNC · 04-28-2008, 12:21 PM

Funny to say Herm out-scouted the rest of the NFL when the reason we are thrilled is that the Chiefs for once picked according to consensus/composite draft boards. We had a good draft because for ONCE we didn't TRY to out-scout the rest of the NFL. Someone, and I am guessing Clark Hunt, was able to hold Carl's ego in check, and not let him **** it up with his genius.

Direckshun · 04-28-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

My impression, that was the first day grade, due to giving up picks to get to Albert.

Right. I wasn't crazy about Albert -- I think he's a great player, I just didn't think he was worth it for us. But then again, I always reserve the right to be wrong.

I was also sketchy about the Flowers pick. I graded him as 1st round talent, but then he emerged as a very serious character concern.

Couldn't complain about the Dorsey pick.

Direckshun · 04-28-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

I understand your point, it's a picture...but, it's what the picture says. I am a big play in a college coke ring. Look at all this money that is not legit, and the little bag of coke we have here. Look at how cool we are...this, this is cool.

Right. Mecca and I have disagreed with this for a couple days now, and it's a well taken point.

Mecca says the guy's clean, it was a stupid prank, it's not like he was hurting anybody.

I say, on the other side, that the picture was put up during Draft season and exhibits some extremely bad decision-making.

If he keeps his nose clean, and if Albert makes a good conversion to OT, this was a grand slam.

**alanm** · 04-28-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Say that out loud. Or just type it out.

It's truly amazing what they did. They out-scouted the entire NFL not just in rookies, but in what other teams wanted and were looking for (note how they beat the Eagles to Albert). They out-scouted them with small school players, they out-scouted Draft experts, they out-scouted everybody.

Merritt's the perfect example. Everybody who heard about Central Florida watched their games for Kevin Smith. But the Chiefs watched the games, and they came away with a high opinion of a blocking tight end with a massive frame that nobody else in the NFL even acknowledged existed.

Carr as a 5th rounder looks like amazing value for one of the best CBs to have played in DII over the last decade or so, and has the measurables to compete in the NFL.

This is just a great weekend for Chiefs fans. A time not to just enjoy your team but to be proud of them. Who the hell knew Herm was capable of this?

While that's all nice and everything. The bottom line is..
Can they play?

blueballs · 04-28-2008, 12:31 PM

They had two first rounders(5 - 15) and a boat load of high round picks
they could afford to be choosey -that makes a dif
last couple of years was low mid picks

Hydrae · 04-28-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano

Merritt will be given every chance to be the blocking TE since there really isn't another option.

Carry three tight ends - Gonzalez, Cottam, Merritt. However, if Cottam can develop his blocking skills, he kills all need of a third, blocking TE.

Herm really likes Carr and I bet he makes the 53 man roster on physical ability alone.

With the depth situation at DE, I really wonder if Johnston makes it as a situational pass-rusher.

Richardson is a lock, IMO. Big guy that just needs a little motivation.

Um, Michael Allan?

Direckshun · 04-28-2008, 12:40 PM

I don't really know what to make of Allan.

The guy seemed to play well in last year's preseason. Made a few really hard catches.

Only explanation I can think of is that the Chiefs are going to be running a buttload of 2-TE sets and they need as many as four TEs to keep the offense fresh.

Tony G -- #1 receiver, can block
Cottam -- #2 receiver, can block
Allan -- pure receiver
Merritt -- #1 blocker

???

38yrsfan · 04-28-2008, 12:42 PM

Obviously no single player is a sure-thing and after watching more drafts than I hate to acknowledge - I think/feel/hope that this years' selections have considerable potential.

Hopefully we'll never see the team in a situation again where Dorsey is in the position to catch a TD.

BIG_DADDY · 04-28-2008, 12:56 PM

Herm is one of the best at evaluating talent, period. He just isn't a HC.

Direckshun · 04-28-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 38yrsfan

Obviously no single player is a sure-thing and after watching more drafts than I hate to acknowledge - I think/feel/hope that this years' selections have considerable potential.

Hopefully we'll never see the team in a situation again where Dorsey is in the position to catch a TD.

Yeah, I'd rather have Dorsey lined up in an I-formation.

Delano · 04-28-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

Um, Michael Allan?

I thought about that as well, but Michael Allan is only really comparable to Cottam and they aren't going to take Allan over the third rounder IMO.

Merritt could be VERY valuable in Gailey's offense, as has been noted here.

I think Allan is the odd man out right now.

**Buehler445** · 04-28-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Just wet flurries, nothing is going to stick. In fact, it has turned to just a drizzle now. Gotta cover the tulips up tonight though, it is supposed to freeze!

Yeah dude, it snowed here on Saturday for like 4 damn hours

. It was a high of thirty ****ing three. I was pretty furious. 75 and sunny now though

Mecca · 04-28-2008, 06:45 PM

Allan probably won't be on the team, generally to carry a TE that is a pure receiver like that he has to be great at getting open and creating mismatches....

**HemiEd** · 04-28-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Yeah dude, it snowed here on Saturday for like 4 damn hours

. It was a high of thirty ****ing three. I was pretty furious. 75 and sunny now though

Looking forward to June and July!

Deberg_1990 · 04-28-2008, 06:49 PM

Great,

So when is Herm going to start outcoaching 31 other teams??

04-28-2008, 12:29 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Herm out-scouted the entire NFL. Say that out loud. Or just type it out. It's truly amazing what they did. They out-scouted the entire NFL not just in rookies, but in what other teams wanted and were looking for (note how they beat the Eagles to Albert). They out-scouted them with small school players, they out-scouted Draft experts, they out-scouted everybody. Merritt's the perfect example. Everybody who heard about Central Florida watched their games for Kevin Smith. But the Chiefs watched the games, and they came away with a high opinion of a blocking tight end with a massive frame that nobody else in the NFL even acknowledged existed. Carr as a 5th rounder looks like amazing value for one of the best CBs to have played in DII over the last decade or so, and has the measurables to compete in the NFL. This is just a great weekend for Chiefs fans. A time not to just enjoy your team but to be proud of them. Who the hell knew Herm was capable of this?
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04-28-2008, 12:21 PM	#61
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1753986	Funny to say Herm out-scouted the rest of the NFL when the reason we are thrilled is that the Chiefs for once picked according to consensus/composite draft boards. We had a good draft because for ONCE we didn't TRY to out-scout the rest of the NFL. Someone, and I am guessing Clark Hunt, was able to hold Carl's ego in check, and not let him **** it up with his genius.
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04-28-2008, 12:31 PM	#65
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	They had two first rounders(5 - 15) and a boat load of high round picks they could afford to be choosey -that makes a dif last couple of years was low mid picks
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04-28-2008, 12:40 PM	#67
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	I don't really know what to make of Allan. The guy seemed to play well in last year's preseason. Made a few really hard catches. Only explanation I can think of is that the Chiefs are going to be running a buttload of 2-TE sets and they need as many as four TEs to keep the offense fresh. Tony G -- #1 receiver, can block Cottam -- #2 receiver, can block Allan -- pure receiver Merritt -- #1 blocker ???
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38yrsfan Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In many minds, rent free. Casino cash: $9935667	Obviously no single player is a sure-thing and after watching more drafts than I hate to acknowledge - I think/feel/hope that this years' selections have considerable potential. Hopefully we'll never see the team in a situation again where Dorsey is in the position to catch a TD. __________________ During the 75 season the Chiefs mascot Warpaint would circle the field after a touchdown. This prompted a great quote from long ago Raiders coach John Madden after the 42-10 loss at Arrowhead. "We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
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BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $2558410	Herm is one of the best at evaluating talent, period. He just isn't a HC. __________________ The diabolical genius of Marxism-Socialism is that it provides the emotional and intellectual road map for autocrats to persuade millions of people to support their own enslavement to government. ~Mark Levin April 15, 2019
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-682950	Allan probably won't be on the team, generally to carry a TE that is a pure receiver like that he has to be great at getting open and creating mismatches....
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $134454	Great, So when is Herm going to start outcoaching 31 other teams?? __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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