Note to Herm: Wake the **** up

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Herm's only playoff wins come against Marty Schottenheimer and Tony Dungy, pre-Manning revolt.

Pre-Manning revolt - that's hilarious. You're making up little stories in your mind to fit reality to theories you made up before-hand. It was not a revolt that made the Colts better, it was years and years of melding a system and keeping it together. It was years of adding young players to a defense that was terrible when Dungy arrived. Tom Moore called the plays in 2002 and he calls the plays now.

Dismiss it all you want - that Jets team in 2002 went up to Foxboro and beat Tom Brady in a huge game in Week 16, blew out the 12-4 Packers 42-17 in Week 17, and then demolished the Colts 41-0 in the playoffs. There were no flukes there, and no easy opposition.

And I'm curious - do you think Norv Turner is a better coach than Marty Schottenheimer? Who exactly is a good coach? Belichick and Belichick only? You might say Andy Reid - but you forget that he lost 3 home playoff games in consecutive years as a home favorite - the same stuff you get on Marty for. Sean Payton because he loses 42-39 and you think defense is boring? My guess is that you think everyone sucks.

I still don't think people realize the mediocre level of talent those Jets teams had. Everyone bags on Chad Pennington, but somehow they think Herm underachieved in New York by only going to the playoffs 3 times, winning 2 playoff games, and being competitive every year Pennington was healthy while in the same division with a dynasty in its peak years? It just doesn't make sense.

And Herm made the right decision on Thigpen today.