Let's put all the QB talk right here

[jidar]

Originally Posted by SBK

Have you watched the 2 guys play?

yes, yes I have. And I haven't seen enough of either of them to say for sure that Tebow can't pass in the NFL and the Stafford can.

I do know I like Staffords throws better but his decision making is suspect to me. Tebow can't make the passes that Stafford can, but the guy plays smart. Combine that with the type of athlete he is and I think he might be something special.

[PunkinDrublic]

What type of offense does Tebow play in?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by jidar

yes, yes I have. And I haven't seen enough of either of them to say for sure that Tebow can't pass in the NFL and the Stafford can.

I do know I like Staffords throws better but his decision making is suspect to me. Tebow can't make the passes that Stafford can, but the guy plays smart. Combine that with the type of athlete he is and I think he might be something special.

He plays in Urban Meyer's system.

If Chase Daniels didn't run the spread for the last 8 years of his life and he was producing the kind of numbers he is in a pro-style offense, he'd be a pretty good prospect regardless of size. But he doesn't. He runs a gimmick offense of sorts.

Tebow is a great physical specimen and athlete QB'ing in a system designed to boost his numbers.

[PunkinDrublic]

One factor that I realized is that with the top pick now aren't the contracts and salaries negotiated before the draft? If that's the case then with the Chiefs having a lot more money under the salary cap then the Rams wouldn't we have more leverage to get Stafford and force the Rams to pay way more than expected if they did select him?

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

One factor that I realized is that with the top pick now aren't the contracts and salaries negotiated before the draft? If that's the case then with the Chiefs having a lot more money under the salary cap then the Rams wouldn't we have more leverage to get Stafford and force the Rams to pay way more than expected if they did select him?

You are saying that Carl and the Chiefs would offer to overpay the #2 player in the draft and break the slotting system so that he wouldn't want to sign with the #1 team? Carl and the Chiefs overpay????

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

You are saying that Carl and the Chiefs would offer to overpay the #2 player in the draft and break the slotting system so that he wouldn't want to sign with the #1 team? Carl and the Chiefs overpay????

Assuming Carl is fired by that time.

[okcchief]

I don't know why everyone is so high on Stafford. I have seen him play several times and I'm not saying he can't be good in the NFL, but he would have to improve a lot to be worthy of a first round pick where the Chiefs will be at in the draft.

I do like Bradford a lot but I don't know that he comes out this year. He makes great reads and is awesome at hitting receivers in stride. If he has a great year and is projected really high it's possible he would come out.

I have only seen limited action from Sanchez but what I have seen I have been impressed with.

I'm not sure if Tebow will be an NFL QB or not. The one thing I do like about him is that he is a winner. He exsudes confidence and does what it takes to win the game. That is not something I really see in Stafford. I understand the system QB analogy but it doesn't mean you can't be a good QB in the NFL if you run the spread in college. A good QB is a good QB.

I think this season will tell a lot about if any of these QBs are franchise caliber. It might be better for the Chiefs to go another way in the first round and try a second round QB and bring in a veteran to bring him along.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by okcchief

I don't know why everyone is so high on Stafford. I have seen him play several times and I'm not saying he can't be good in the NFL, but he would have to improve a lot to be worthy of a first round pick where the Chiefs will be at in the draft.

I do like Bradford a lot but I don't know that he comes out this year. He makes great reads and is awesome at hitting receivers in stride. If he has a great year and is projected really high it's possible he would come out.

I have only seen limited action from Sanchez but what I have seen I have been impressed with.

I'm not sure if Tebow will be an NFL QB or not. The one thing I do like about him is that he is a winner. He exsudes confidence and does what it takes to win the game. That is not something I really see in Stafford. I understand the system QB analogy but it doesn't mean you can't be a good QB in the NFL if you run the spread in college. A good QB is a good QB.

I think this season will tell a lot about if any of these QBs are franchise caliber. It might be better for the Chiefs to go another way in the first round and try a second round QB and bring in a veteran to bring him along.

People talk about Tebow's skills transitioning or not to the NFL, his throwing mechanics, whether he can take snaps from center, whether he can function in an NFL offense. All of those can be debated and have been. However, the one thing that I don't think anyone can challenge is Tebow's competitiveness. I've never seen anyone more competitive, who plays with more fervor and who has a greater desire to win. His attitude and personality towards playing reminds me a lot of Brett Favre.

[okcchief]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

People talk about Tebow's skills transitioning or not to the NFL, his throwing mechanics, whether he can take snaps from center, whether he can function in an NFL offense. All of those can be debated and have been. However, the one thing that I don't think anyone can challenge is Tebow's competitiveness. I've never seen anyone more competitive, who plays with more fervor and who has a greater desire to win. His attitude and personality towards playing reminds me a lot of Brett Favre.

I think that would be a good comparison. Favre has horrible mechanics but he is a winner. Of course, he can make any throw where I'm not sure that Tebow can.