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Old 10-10-2008, 02:21 PM  
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Tony Gonzalez Trade Talks?
I just stepped out to lunch and heard a 610 report that the trade talks for Tony Gonzalez are pretty serious. It was said that he could be moved to New York as early as today?

Does anyone have more information about this?
I was only in the car a short time.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:13 PM   #76
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According to Glazer, Gonzo's worth a 2nd and a 5th.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...-be-a-bad-idea
Id be stoked if it went down like that.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:13 PM   #77
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gonzo is worth alot more on a good team where he can stretch the field with our offense we mine as well not have anyone running routes
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:13 PM   #78
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I could care less about the PR hit. If people don't like it, don't ****ing watch the team. Simple as that.

But considering the team's he'd likely be dealt to, that 3rd round pick is almost a 4th - they'll be picking in the last quarter of the round.
Good point about being late in the round.

But with these types of situations, fans should ask themselves, "What do the best teams do?" Most don't keep old players and they try to get something in return. Why wouldn't we want the Chiefs to do the same?

If the offer is shit, move on. But a legit. offer, like if the idiot on the Net is right about a 2nd and 5th, should have been accepted yesterday.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:15 PM   #79
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I still hold out for a first though. You're trading the face of your franchise, and this move makes the Giants the unquestionable favorite in a brutal NFC.

Since when is a trip to the Super Bowl not worth a 1st round pick?
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:15 PM   #80
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Id be stoked if it went down like that.
I'd be more stoked for Gonzalez, more than anything.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:16 PM   #81
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I'd be more stoked for Gonzalez, more than anything.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:17 PM   #82
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He's worth a lot more to the Chiefs than he is to anybody else. They're basically saying Gonzalez=Shockey, which is a goddamn joke.
Sentimentally, yeah, he's worth more to us than anyone else.

But he's physically worth WAY more to a team that could very realistically be hoisting their 2nd straight Lombardi Trophy come February 2009.

You can't give him away, but if someone makes a solid offer, it's what's best for the future of the franchise, IMO.

What has a better chance of happening:

a) Tony Gonzalez helping this team win a Super Bowl in the next 2-3 years?

b) The draft pick we received as compensation helping this team win a Super Bowl in the next 5-10 years?

I know, both are longshots. But option A has ZERO chance of happening.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:17 PM   #83
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I'd hold out for the #1 or the #2.
A #1 or a 2 and a 4. Anything else is reeruned especially from the Giants since the 1st rounder will be like a 2nd...

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Old 10-10-2008, 03:17 PM   #84
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But with these types of situations, fans should ask themselves, "What do the best teams do?" Most don't keep old players and they try to get something in return. Why wouldn't we want the Chiefs to do the same?
If Gonzalez contract was almost up, you might have a point.
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He's worth a lot more to the Chiefs than he is to anybody else. They're basically saying Gonzalez=Shockey, which is a goddamn joke.
Worth in what sense?

From a wins and losses perspective, I don't think he makes a damn bit of difference. This team sucks. If it's 4-12 with Gonzo or 2-14 without him, I'd take the latter because it means we're closer to getting rid of the clowns in charge AND we're getting (or should be getting) better players in the draft.
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If Gonzalez contract was almost up, you might have a point.
He's going to play at a high level for 2 maybe 3 more years, assuming he doesn't get injured. Will this team compete at a high level during this period? His contract length doesn't matter.
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This is one of the few times where I'd support a deal even if we don't necessarily get fair market value. And that's purely because Tony has put in the work and deserves a chance to play for a winner.

Now the more we could gash a team of draft picks the better but I'm in support of the deal.
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Unless a team gives up way too much value, then **** that. More than likely a team wouldn't give more than a 2nd and Tony is worth more on the field than a 2nd.

As far as "Tony deserves better" - bullshit. He signed a contract to stay here and is making a boatload of money.
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Worth in what sense?

From a wins and losses perspective, I don't think he makes a damn bit of difference. This team sucks. If it's 4-12 with Gonzo or 2-14 without him, I'd take the latter because it means we're closer to getting rid of the clowns in charge AND we're getting (or should be getting) better players in the draft.
Well, I'm not really into playing for draft position. If you are, I guess that's okay. Croyle, or whoever the Chiefs draft at QB next year won't be thanking Carl for this deal.
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I understand where everyone's coming from who claims that Tony "deserves" to play for a winner.

But **** that. I deserve to cheer for a ****ing winner, too. Hope in one hand, shit in the other...
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