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Old 10-14-2008, 03:10 PM  
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Herm can't handle the egos...
Cdcox has been saying it for awhile now. Herm can't handle the egos. He's absolutely right. Today is undeniable proof that he's incapable of doing that. He can't handle Carl, he can't handle Tony, he can't handle Larry. He went to the press conference and threw a little hissy fit because his overpaid ass can't handle a bunch of other overpaid asses. All of whom aren't getting the job done.

Herm can't handle the egos.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:56 PM   #106
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Maybe I was raised differently.

I was taught that no matter what, you don't turn your back on your teammates. You win as a team, you lose as a team.
Even when a certified moron runs the team, Mr. OnTheWarpath58?

Perhaps you were raised differently. By a band of gypsy doofuses who just ran their wagons around in a big circle all day every day, maybe.

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:57 PM   #107
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Even when a certified moron runs the team, Mr. OnTheWarpath58?

Perhaps you were raised differently. By a band of gypsy doofuses who just ran their wagons around in a big circle all day every day, maybe.

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:57 PM   #108
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Has he given any more than Brian Waters?

I don't see Brian running to Carl's office asking for a trade just because things aren't going well right now.
Waters isn't going to the Hall. Waters hasn't broken every record at his position. Waters isn't a superstar in the league. Waters isn't an entertainer.

TG is all those things. There's a difference between those two cats. I like Waters. I think he's a good soldier. But, he's not looking for the same things Gonzo's looking for out of life.

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:58 PM   #109
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So?

We hated, and I mean HATED our HS football coach.

But everyone stuck it out, and it created a stronger bond in the locker room.

Christ, we were just kids, and we acted more professional than the so-called professionals...
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:59 PM   #110
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Even when a certified moron runs the team, Mr. OnTheWarpath58?

Perhaps you were raised differently. By a band of gypsy doofuses who just ran their wagons around in a big circle all day every day, maybe.

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So?

We hated, and I mean HATED our HS football coach.

But everyone stuck it out, and it created a stronger bond in the locker room.

Christ, we were just kids, and we acted more professional than the so-called professionals...
Yep, Mr. FAX, even when a moron ran the team.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:00 PM   #111
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Maybe I was raised differently.

I was taught that no matter what, you don't turn your back on your teammates. You win as a team, you lose as a team.
The difference being this is the NFL not high school. The NFL is a business, players are employees, owners are bosses, and coaches are management.
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So?

We hated, and I mean HATED our HS football coach.

But everyone stuck it out, and it created a stronger bond in the locker room.

Christ, we were just kids, and we acted more professional than the so-called professionals...
How noble of you and all your buddies. Such is the stuff of crappy movies.

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, perhaps you'd like to think deeper about what it means to be a professional.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:03 PM   #114
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Yep, Mr. FAX, even when a moron ran the team.
Well, I can respect that. Actually, the more I read your posts, the more inclined I am to your argument that TG was being the prima donna in this case.

Nevertheless, when you weigh it all out (in my mind, at least) TG is a Chief. He was drafted a Chief and wanted to retire a Chief. It took a great deal for him to ask to be traded. That "great deal" was the stupidest head coach ever to don a headset backwards and ask for help turning it on. Because of that, I honestly don't blame him for wanting out.

Plus, I don't see anything wrong with pitching him the rock for 3 yards in front of the home crowd. Herm doesn't give a shit about the Chiefs. All he talks about are the Jets and the Bucs. If he did care, he would have given Tony his moment in the sun.

So, on balance, I'm still more for Gonzo on this deal.

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Waters isn't going to the Hall. Waters hasn't broken every record at his position. Waters isn't a superstar in the league. Waters isn't an entertainer.

TG is all those things. There's a difference between those two cats. I like Waters. I think he's a good soldier. But, he's not looking for the same things Gonzo's looking for out of life.

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So basically what you are saying, is that because TG plays a more glamorous position, he's worth more to the team?

That's what's great about offensive linemen.

They know that they are the 5 most important players on the field, and don't bitch a bit about the lack of recognition they get.

Will Shields played here for what, 14 years?

Does Tony Gonzalez deserve a chance at a ring more than Will ****ing Shields?

If Tony wanted a ring that badly, he shouldn't have signed a new deal. It's not like he signed, THEN Herm was hired.
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So?

We hated, and I mean HATED our HS football coach.

But everyone stuck it out, and it created a stronger bond in the locker room.

Christ, we were just kids, and we acted more professional than the so-called professionals...
Are you kidding? You are comparing you HS team to the big business that is the NFL.

I don't think I will waist any more time on this discussion
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The difference being this is the NFL not high school. The NFL is a business, players are employees, owners are bosses, and coaches are management.
Exactly.

And being a business, Tony signed a deal and cashed the check AFTER Herm Edwards was hired here.

You guys can blame Herm for this all you want. He IS a bad coach. But Tony knew what he was getting into when he signed the extension.

It's on his head, and his head alone.
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So basically what you are saying, is that because TG plays a more glamorous position, he's worth more to the team?

That's what's great about offensive linemen.

They know that they are the 5 most important players on the field, and don't bitch a bit about the lack of recognition they get.

Will Shields played here for what, 14 years?

Does Tony Gonzalez deserve a chance at a ring more than Will ****ing Shields?

If Tony wanted a ring that badly, he shouldn't have signed a new deal. It's not like he signed, THEN Herm was hired.
What you have to realize is that Tony didn't want to leave. He's said many times that he wanted to retire a Chief.

The other thing I would urge you to consider is that not all guys are the same. Waters is a different breed of cat compared to TG. They have different roles and different goals.

Personally, I feel badly for all the guys who have played for us through the years. I particularly feel badly for all the guys we've drafted recently knowing that, in all likelihood, they'll never sniff a Super Bowl with this organization. I've said many times how much I regret all the wasted talent that has gone through this franchise at all positions.

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Are you kidding? You are comparing you HS team to the big business that is the NFL.

I don't think I will waist any more time on this discussion
Of course you won't, you're not even bothering to read the ****ing posts.
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What you have to realize is that Tony didn't want to leave. He's said many times that he wanted to retire a Chief.

The other thing I would urge you to consider is that not all guys are the same. Waters is a different breed of cat compared to TG. They have different roles and different goals.

Personally, I feel badly for all the guys who have played for us through the years. I particularly feel badly for all the guys we've drafted recently knowing that, in all likelihood, they'll never sniff a Super Bowl with this organization. I've said many times how much I regret all the wasted talent that has gone through this franchise at all positions.

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I don't feel bad for them one bit.

They are being paid millions of dollars to play a kid's game.

Not everyone gets to hold the Lombardi Trophy.
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