Go on the record: Who do you want as GM and Head Coach?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Time to make some decisions, folks.

No lists, pick ONE GM.

PLEASE make this realistic. A current GM making a lateral move is not realistic.

Also: Pick a HC that you think would be a realistic choice of your GM.

Post bios if you wish.



I'll start:


GM: Eric DeCosta, 37, Director Of College Scouting, Baltimore Ravens.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl...c_DeCosta.aspx


HC: Rex Ryan, 46, Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator, Baltimore Ravens.


http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl.../Rex_Ryan.aspx

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Chris Polian and Steve Spagnola(sp?)



Precisely, I want a GM that is young and from a successful program, and I want a head coach that attacks on BOTH sides of the ball.

this is my favorite combo....but i don't know enough about any of the gms to argue that position...

i just want new blood everywhere, after that there are no guarantees...

[wazu]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

...we should absolutely not hire anyone, DC or HC, who is a 3-4 disciple unless you are 100% certain that Dorsey is a bust, and there is no way you can know that right now.

Disagree. All things being equal, that might put the decision over the top, but we need the best coach we can possibly find. I am guessing Dorsey could play a role in that somewhere, but if he can't, then don't gamble the whole franchise by picking somebody just because your underperforming rookie might be good some day if a coach runs the right system.

[Brock]

I like McDaniels, I'm just not sure he's seasoned enough to take on an entire team. Spag, on the other hand, I'm sure is.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Why are you even positing this? There is no way anyone could look at this team and claim that a 3-4 is in its best long term interests.

3-4 NT is the hardest position in the NFL to find bar none. We have no talent in the front 7 designed for a 3-4.

This is the exact opposite of what Herm did in New York...took a veteran team with great cover corners and a solid NT and turned it into a Tampa 2 team, and the defense got progressively worse because of it.

If you want to run the 3-4 as a look in a certain package, fine, but we should absolutely not hire anyone, DC or HC, who is a 3-4 disciple unless you are 100% certain that Dorsey is a bust, and there is no way you can know that right now.

And he's not "a player". He's a top 5 draft pick. This is about as intelligent as drafting Sam Bradford and having him run the Al Davis offense.

You should get your resume to Clark quick, because you ****ing know EVERYTHING - yet your reading comprehension really needs work.

What part of "experienced in 43, 34 and 46" do you not understand? I've only mentioned it FOUR or FIVE times.

He worked for the Ravens AS they made the switch from 43 to 34. IIRC, they ran the 43 under him at OU in the late 90's.

If you don't like the guy as a candidate, just say so.

But to claim he's a 34 "disciple" and is inflexible to run any other defense just because he runs a 34 NOW makes you look like a jackass.

I'm not sure WTF happened to you recently, but you've gone from solid, open-minded football talk, to know-it-all-one who sucks the penis in a matter of a few months.

[FringeNC]

GM: Pioli or Polian
HC: McDaniels, Garrett or Spag. [Garrett won't come here, though]

(Hot-shot coordinators often don't pan out, though, but it's worth the risk.)

The main thing is just to clear out the not-to-lose stench at Arrowhead. Please no one in any capacity who talks about a QB as a game manager, and has nightmares of a QB throwing an interception.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

The main thing is just to clear out the not-to-lose stench at Arrowhead. Please no one in any capacity who talks about a QB as a game manager, and has nightmares of a QB throwing an interception.

QFT

[wazu]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm not sure WTF happened to you recently, but you've gone from solid, open-minded football talk, to know-it-all-one who sucks the penis in a matter of a few months.

I think it's more likely that you have a very advanced form of amnesia.

[Micjones]

GM - Chris Polian
HC - Josh McDaniels

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Adam

Disagree. All things being equal, that might put the decision over the top, but we need the best coach we can possibly find. I am guessing Dorsey could play a role in that somewhere, but if he can't, then don't gamble the whole franchise by picking somebody just because your underperforming rookie might be good some day if a coach runs the right system.

#1) He's not underperforming
#2) The last thing we need is another system only disciple that eschews the talent on hand for his ideal defense. That's how we went from 15th to 32nd

Hell, depending on the season, Belichick has used a 4-3 or 3-4. He even used a prowl formation in certain games (against Bledsoe, and against the Bills in SB XXV).

If you were a SF Giants fan, would you want the Giants to hire a manager who installs a pitch to contact philosophy and tells Tim Lincecum to start throwing nothing but two seamers? If you are a Cavs fan, would you want the coach to install the motion offense where LeBron becomes a cog rather than the driver of the O?

Why would you minimize the talent you already have on hand just because you are married to a scheme that is no more or less successful than any other scheme on defense?

It's myopic.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

GM: Pioli or Polian
HC: McDaniels, Garrett or Spag. [Garrett won't come here, though]

(Hot-shot coordinators often don't pan out, though, but it's worth the risk.)

The main thing is just to clear out the not-to-lose stench at Arrowhead. Please no one in any capacity who talks about a QB as a game manager, and has nightmares of a QB throwing an interception.

Can argue with that...

Polian
Spag

Might be a new breath of life for this franchise...

[BigRedChief]

GM: Pioli, he laughs at us then Polian

HC: Jeff Fisher, he laughs at us then Ryan or Sprag is okay and I'd have NP with Cohwer either. He's old school but he did change and his teams were always competitive no matter their talent level.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

GM: Pioli, he laughs at us then Polian

HC: Jeff Fisher, he laughs at us then Ryan or Sprag is okay and I'd have NP with Cohwer either. He's old school but he did change and his teams were always competitive no matter their talent level.

What makes you think that Fisher is going to come over here?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

#1) He's not underperforming
#2) The last thing we need is another system only disciple that eschews the talent on hand for his ideal defense. That's how we went from 15th to 32nd

Hell, depending on the season, Belichick has used a 4-3 or 3-4. He even used a prowl formation in certain games (against Bledsoe, and against the Bills in SB XXV).

If you were a SF Giants fan, would you want the Giants to hire a manager who installs a pitch to contact philosophy and tells Tim Lincecum to start throwing nothing but two seamers? If you are a Cavs fan, would you want the coach to install the motion offense where LeBron becomes a cog rather than the driver of the O?

Why would you minimize the talent you already have on hand just because you are married to a scheme that is no more or less successful than any other scheme on defense?

It's myopic.

Seriously. I'm done.

He's not MARRIED to a scheme.

He runs a 34 hybrid NOW.

He's run a 43 in the PAST.

This isn't that difficult to understand.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

What makes you think that Fisher is going to come over here?

The question wasn't which one was likely to come here. It was who would we want to be our HC.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You should get your resume to Clark quick, because you ****ing know EVERYTHING - yet your reading comprehension really needs work.

What part of "experienced in 43, 34 and 46" do you not understand? I've only mentioned it FOUR or FIVE times.

He worked for the Ravens AS they made the switch from 43 to 34. IIRC, they ran the 43 under him at OU in the late 90's.

If you don't like the guy as a candidate, just say so.

But to claim he's a 34 "disciple" and is inflexible to run any other defense just because he runs a 34 NOW makes you look like a jackass.

I'm not sure WTF happened to you recently, but you've gone from solid, open-minded football talk, to know-it-all-one who sucks the penis in a matter of a few months.

Yeah, I must have not posted to you that "you can run a 3-4 look in a certain scheme" but it shouldn't be a part of the entire package.

Yet, despite this, I'm not acknowledging anything you say or paying attention?

And yet, you go on defending the concept of a 3-4, when it's plain as ****ing day that no one in their right mind would implement it with the talent we have here, unless you want to flush a top 5 draft pick one year into his career. And yet, despite saying that it's just part of a system he uses, you claim that Dorsey would work as a 3-4 end, despite the fact that you supposedly aren't saying that this is a possibility.

I'm not the one calling people a one who sucks the penis because I disagree with them, either.

You do this shit with Mecca all the time in draft threads. Yeah, I'm abrasive and I think I know a lot, but I'm also not hypocritical enough to call someone out on that when it's one of my biggest personality characteristics, as it is with you.