Missed this comment from Clark on QBs

[the Talking Can]

just replayed it on 810, from petro interview

Clark talked about the fact that the Patriots drafted a QB almost every year, and went on to say "I'm sure Scott Pioli's teams will draft a QB every year...and we'll hit on one of them and that will be our franchise QB..."


2 obvious points:

1. Clark gets it - we have to have a QB, and we have to draft QBs to find the right one...doesn't mean we'll take one at #3, but it is a clear change from Carl...

2. Thigpen is not our franchise QB

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Uhh, no. Brees was the first pick of the 2nd round which currently would be a 1st round pick with 32 picks in each round as opposed to 31 at the time he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that the other team would have drafted him, especially since the other team would have likely drafted at the other end of the draft.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Back in 1982... I could throw a football a quarter mile.

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I could throw a football clear over them mountains.

A great excuse to post this bad boy again!

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

A great excuse to post this bad boy again!

Holy shit that is perfect!!!!!

So typical Chiefs!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Samoan Power

I agree, just doesnt need to be a top 3 pick. We have other HUGE glaring needs.

Value and Position! Value and Position! And if you can't comprehend THAT, try THIS:

We have other HUGE glaring needs.

Needs that can be met through drafting in later rounds, and the Majestic Miracle that IS Free Agency. Yes, you should expect to see a marginal return to this practice under Pioli.
Somebody school this fool; DCS grows weary.

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Um, QB IS a HUGE glaring need.

This.

Originally Posted by beavis

I feel much more comfortable with Pioli drafting a QB in the later rounds than Carl. I think it's safe to say he's proven that they can be found.

Yes, let's hope lightning strikes twice in the same spot, because the probability of such an occurance is off the charts!

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yay! I can't wait for the 7th round of the 2009 draft!

Woo-hoo!

This.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

2nd round QB's dont win Super Bowls. Take the QB in the first, fix the defense with the rest.

They'll never learn CC; you might as well be moving the furniture around on Helen Keller.

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

hi Carl...thanks for 20 years of cultivating a culture of ignorance through your epic negligence, thereby turning a large number of the fan base in to spit bubble-laden ****-tards who are now incapable of understanding the RIGHT WAY to assemble an NFL Roster.
****stick.

FYP.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

They'll never learn CC; you might as well be moving the furniture around on Helen Keller.

Hey we convinced you.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Hey we convinced you.

True enough. Keep Hope Alive!

[bkkcoh]

We can instantly upgrade our football with improving the defense and adding pieces to the offensive line. I think Thigpen is a good enough QB that we don't have to draft a QB with the 3rd pick. We can take a QB later. Unless a sure-fire, superstar QB is available, and we all know that that isn't the case. There might be a really good one, but is he good enough to take a chance on with the 3rd pick.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

We can instantly upgrade our football with improving the defense and adding pieces to the offensive line. I think Thigpen is a good enough QB that we don't have to draft a QB with the 3rd pick. We can take a QB later. Unless a sure-fire, superstar QB is available, and we all know that that isn't the case. There might be a really good one, but is he good enough to take a chance on with the 3rd pick.

If Stafford or Sanchez is there you take them. End of Story. They are as close to sure fire QBs we're gonna get a shot at. Chances are we will not be drafting this high next season. Grab them when you have the opportunity, because chances are we won't get another one.

[Chiefless]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm not saying that you consider it when your drafting.

But again, you're GETTING SOMETHING out of that pick, and not stalling your offense in the meantime.

If give the choice, would you rather have a LT that gets moved to guard, albeit overpaid, and produces?

Or would you rather have a QB, that is costing you financially, and on the field? And limiting his offensive teammates as well?

I'd rather have neither.

I see your point, but IMO if you draft an LT at #3 you are expecting Orlando Pace or Willie Roaf in return. If you Get Trezelle Jenkins instead I think it crushes you finanancially and limits his teammates on the field. The LT affects every position on the offense in some way. The same can be said for almost every position on the field. Maybe not to the degree a QB does, but still a major bust is a major bust. There is no way around the fact that it hurts you badly.

[greyhoodie]

Originally Posted by TipRoast

The Patriots don't draft a QB every other year in order to try to strike gold.

They do it to create competition at the position. The team philosophy is to always be trying to improve the 53-man roster. No position is safe, and everyone is ranked.

I suspect Pioli will institute the same policy for you. Also expect him to target players that are versatile, and can play more than one position.

So your theory is that if Matt Cassel wasn't breathing down Tom Brady's neck threatening to steal his start job, Brady wouldn't have been motivated and would not have thrown 50 TDs 2007.

My theory is the Patriots draft a QB every other year because they were looking to find someone who if need be could take the team to an 11-5 record if Tom Brady was injured during the season. IE strike gold.

[greyhoodie]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The way that Pioli talked of Cassel, I'm sure he will put a call in to see what the compensation would be.

There is no way in hell I'd give up a #1 for him, but a 2 in this draft, and a 4 next year and I might do it.

It just depends. I'm willing to put total faith in Pioli to see what he can come up with.

One thing I'm fairly certain about is that Thigpen won't be the starting QB of this team next year.

I doubt NE wants KC's third. I doubt Pioli wants it either, but KC has enough cap room that he can afford it. BB would be more inclined to take KC 2nd round this year and another pick next year, than the third overall.

[Chief Henry]

Originally Posted by Crybaby Power

No but when you're scoring roughly 24pts a game, with a good defense that usually wins you football games.


Funny how some still dont realize this even after the DV years.

this

[Chief Henry]

Originally Posted by beavis

I feel much more comfortable with Pioli drafting a QB in the later rounds than Carl. I think it's safe to say he's proven that they can be found.

I feel more comfortable with Pioli than Carl doing anything related to the Chiefs.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

We can instantly upgrade our football with improving the defense and adding pieces to the offensive line. I think Thigpen is a good enough QB that we don't have to draft a QB with the 3rd pick. We can take a QB later. Unless a sure-fire, superstar QB is available, and we all know that that isn't the case. There might be a really good one, but is he good enough to take a chance on with the 3rd pick.

I don't want a QB that is just "good enough". I want a Peyton Manning....a Tom Brady *cringe*.....I want a ****ing franchise QB.

[greyhoodie]

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

I don't want a QB that is just "good enough". I want a Peyton Manning....a Tom Brady *cringe*.....I want a ****ing franchise QB.

I think you are confusing franchise QB and HOF QB.

If your expectations are a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady you will probably be disappointed.

Rivers, Cutler, Big Ben, Baby Manning, possibly Cassel, Warner, possibly Pennington, Brees, Romo, etc are Franchise QBs.