News Bannister Mall closing for Good at end of may - Page 10

Al Bundy · 05-10-2007, 11:04 PM

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Bannister Mall closing

Deberg_1990 · 01-22-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbymitch

What made us stop going there, were the groups of kids. They would wander about, being loud, and would walk down the corridors 5 and 6 side by side. They wouldn't move or let anyone get by them. It just got down right uncomfortable, so we went elsewhere.

Isnt that at any indoor mall in America?? This is partially why the trend is to move towards open air malls.

Deter the teen hangouts and crime.

bobbymitch · 01-22-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Isnt that at any indoor mall in America?? This is partially why the trend is to move towards open air malls.

Deter the teen hangouts and crime.

Starting to be that way. However, some kids are more courtious than others. I noticed this when we did some quick shopping at the OP Mall this December.

When I was younger, we had places to hang out. Today's kids don't, so they take what they can get.

**Bugeater** · 01-22-2009, 03:21 PM

Kinda interesting looking at this area on Google Streetview, and considering the only thing that looks like it's open is the fire station, it actually looks pretty nice. It's a shame they are tearing it all down. I was there a couple times in the early 90s and I don't recall having any issues there, although maybe that was before all the trouble started.

KC-TBB · 01-22-2009, 03:23 PM

Its not just malls, the little a-holes try to walk into you even in the stand alone stores...I have just learned to hate people in general. I keep praying for some huge comet to come hurling through space towards us. SWEET RELIEF BAYBE!

Micjones · 01-22-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

Sounds good.

But in reality when the bus lines let all the "hood" into Hypermart area the mall didn't have a chance.

Me thinks that's quite an oversimplification.
How long has the Troost line been serving that area?

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Maybe the crime rates were more in OP but I'm willing to bet the violent crimes weren't higher.

I think the businesses that cited non-violent crimes (ie, shoplifting) as a significant part of why they left the area would disagree.

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So what Johnny ran out of OP Dillards with a jacket... It's not as bad as someone carjacked in the parking lot at Christmas time at Bannister.

Because God knows that violent crimes don't occur in Overland Park at a mall, like say, Oak Park...
*Cough* Kelsey Smith *Cough*

Deberg_1990 · 01-22-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

It's a shame they are tearing it all down. .

Yea, but they are building a soccer stadium there right?

That should help revitalize the area.

Micjones · 01-22-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yea, but they are building a soccer stadium there right?

That should help revitalize the area.

For a couple years before it's forgotten...

**Bugeater** · 01-22-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yea, but they are building a soccer stadium there right?

That should help revitalize the area.

Oh yeah, the tens of people that will attract should turn the area around in no time.

Were there ever any efforts to ramp up security?

Brock · 01-22-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

For a couple years before it's forgotten...

Forgotten? Soccer is mega huge these days.

Deberg_1990 · 01-22-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Oh yeah, the tens of people that will attract should turn the area around in no time.

If you build it, they will come.

People will always flock to the shiny and new.

Human Nature.

wutamess · 01-22-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Me thinks that's quite an oversimplification.
How long has the Troost line been serving that area?

I think the businesses that cited non-violent crimes (ie, shoplifting) as a significant part of why they left the area would disagree.

Because God knows that violent crimes don't occur in Overland Park at a mall, like say, Oak Park...
*Cough* Kelsey Smith *Cough*

Are you really comparing OP's violent crime rate to that of Bannister Mall areas (Because of Kelsey's extreme case)?
It's common sense. Get off your excuse hording pedestal and call a spade a spade. Not saying violent crimes didn't/don't happen everywhere but it was more "expected" to happen in the BM area as opposed to other malls.

I don't know how long Troost has been servicing BM (don't care either). I DO know the Metro doesn't run to OP Mall. Coincidence that they're still thriving? Same for Independence Center.

You & I know that BM had gang troubles and you couldn't walk more than 2 people at the mall because of them. Other malls didn't have that issue. It all boils down to demographics... You're smart (you write so well). Figure it out.

**Bugeater** · 01-22-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If you build it, they will come.

People will always flock to the shiny and new.

Human Nature.

Hmmm...I guess. Creighton University built a new soccer complex here a couple years ago, I've heard it's pretty cool but I hate soccer so I have no interest in going.

Micjones · 01-22-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Forgotten? Soccer is mega huge these days.

Soccer's an afterthought in American sports culture.
Me thinks Germany is quite a bit different than Kansas City.

Brock · 01-22-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Soccer's an afterthought in American sports culture.
Me thinks Germany is quite a bit different than Kansas City.

You haven't been paying attention to high school sports.

Micjones · 01-22-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

Are you really comparing OP's violent crime rate to that of Bannister Mall areas (Because of Kelsey's extreme case)?

*Waving to the strawman*

I'd have to be a fool to draw a comparison between the violent crime rates in Kansas City (a town four times as populous) and Overland Park. Guess it's a good thing that I didn't do that. I merely corrected you on the disingenuous idea that violent crimes don't occur in Overland Park.

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Don't know how long Troost has been servicing BM.

Then perhaps you should defer the discussion of how the busline might've contributed to crime in the area? Just a thought...

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Other malls didn't have that issue. It all boils down to demographics... You're smart (you write so well). Figure it out.

It's because I'm smart that I realize that there's more in play.
You're oversimplifying because you don't truly understand the complexities of this discussion. It's easier to pander to the prevailing perceptions and fears of a small group of people than to try to understand all of the information available. I get that. Carry on...

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Bugeater The Maintenance Guy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Renovated Bugeater Estate Casino cash: $3992680	Kinda interesting looking at this area on Google Streetview, and considering the only thing that looks like it's open is the fire station, it actually looks pretty nice. It's a shame they are tearing it all down. I was there a couple times in the early 90s and I don't recall having any issues there, although maybe that was before all the trouble started.
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KC-TBB It is, what it is... Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Harpers Ferry, WV Casino cash: $4505719	Its not just malls, the little a-holes try to walk into you even in the stand alone stores...I have just learned to hate people in general. I keep praying for some huge comet to come hurling through space towards us. SWEET RELIEF BAYBE!
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