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raybec 4 · 01-30-2009, 09:15 AM

UFC 94 should be decent. GSP vs BJ Penn should be a very good fight. I will be rooting for Penn. I think if BJ can keep from getting gassed he could win. He's always had problems with his cardio at 170 though. Lyoto Machida vs Thiago Silva should be a great fight. I personally like the way Silva fights but Machida's manner and attitude so it will be a pick 'em for me.

Katipan · 02-01-2009, 08:16 AM

That was depressing. It looked like a dog playing with a chew toy.

So I'm off to shodokan training.

Simplex3 · 02-01-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mdstu

I'm sure they will take that into consideration while they are counting their millions tonight.

Keep putting up crappy fights like this one and see how long that lasts. You can always ask boxing how it has been working out for them.

burt · 02-01-2009, 09:28 AM

Thanks for the updates all.....some of us couldn't afford the fight and you guys helped make it enjoyable.

mdstu · 02-01-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Keep putting up crappy fights like this one and see how long that lasts. You can always ask boxing how it has been working out for them.

I didn't think the fight was crappy. I think a lot of people thought that BJ would dominate GSP, after the last close fight and GSP getting KO'ed by Serra. It just turns out that BJ isn't quite as great as everyone thought he was. Of course he is the one that moved weight class, but he is the one that called GSP out. I think a lot of people took joy in watching him get his ass kicked.

Don't make this out to be a bad fight like the Silva fluke main event or the over hyped Kimbo fight.

The Poz · 02-01-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

. Are you new to MMA? GSP has always been a cocky bastard. Secondly did you watch the first fight between these two, no one looked for a KO shot, both are methodical fighters. Both are great fighters, BJ is one of the most talented fighters in the UFC, there is a reason they called him The Prodigy when he first started. GSP is good, no doubt about it, I will take my chances with BJ, I still love watching GSP get beat by Matt Serra

. If BJ's mind is right, the only person who can stop him is himself. GSP is a great athlete and good fighter, he beats a lot of people on athleticisim alone. Penn is a great fighter and one of the most flexible and capable BJJ guys in the World. The only problems Penn has ever had is motivation, and he wants to kill GSP in this fight. His submissions rival fedor's IMO. He's rolled with Karo Parisyan, who is top tier also. I'm excited for this fight. Penn reminds me of Fedor, you would never guess by looking at them that they would be the terror's that they are, but looks can be decieving.

I'm curious, what are your thoughts now? Time to find a new "Prodigy"?

chop · 02-01-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Poz

I'm curious, what are your thoughts now? Time to find a new "Prodigy"?

I'm not sure where he gets that GSP has always been a "cocky bastard" from. BJ Penn is a 1000 x more cocky than GSP. I like GSP because he doesn't come across as cocky as a lot of the other fighters.

suds79 · 02-01-2009, 11:53 AM

Who gives a F if guys are cocky.

They're professional fighters. They're all cocky. You'd have to be just to make in that sport.

I think after this, BJ should just stay at 155 and dominate.

Simplex3 · 02-01-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mdstu

I didn't think the fight was crappy. I think a lot of people thought that BJ would dominate GSP, after the last close fight and GSP getting KO'ed by Serra. It just turns out that BJ isn't quite as great as everyone thought he was. Of course he is the one that moved weight class, but he is the one that called GSP out. I think a lot of people took joy in watching him get his ass kicked.

Don't make this out to be a bad fight like the Silva fluke main event or the over hyped Kimbo fight.

BJ is a fighter. Of course he's going to be dumb enough to fight anyone, even guys with 10% more mass than he has.

Everyone talks about how GSP is such a hard-core trainer, always on his game, blah blah blah. If that's true then explain him getting beat down by Serra and losing to Penn the first time (yeah, I know GSP got the decision). GSP is a freak, but he's also hot and cold.

Simplex3 · 02-01-2009, 12:04 PM

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I'm curious, what are your thoughts now? Time to find a new "Prodigy"?

Until GSP walks out and gets punked by some loser like Sera again.

The Poz · 02-01-2009, 12:06 PM

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Until GSP walks out and gets punked by some loser like Sera again.

He learned his lesson. Can't see that happening again anytime in the near future.

BigVE · 02-01-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

BJ is a fighter. Of course he's going to be dumb enough to fight anyone, even guys with 10% more mass than he has.

Everyone talks about how GSP is such a hard-core trainer, always on his game, blah blah blah. If that's true then explain him getting beat down by Serra and losing to Penn the first time (yeah, I know GSP got the decision). GSP is a freak, but he's also hot and cold.

Not any more. You have to go back a few years to find THAT GSP. He doesn't exist anymore. He has been nothing but RED hot since the Serra fight....THAT is when he started to take things more serious and it has shown in EVERY one of his performances since then. He has utterly dominated everyone since the Serra fight. Period. There's your explanation. Catch up with current events before you spout this crap.

BigVE · 02-01-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Until GSP walks out and gets punked by some loser like Sera again.

ANY FIGHTER can get caught...it does happen. Even Fedor has been beat.

suds79 · 02-01-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Until GSP walks out and gets punked by some loser like Sera again.

Yeah that's weak man.

Like BigVE said. ANY FIGHTER can get caught.

Nobody goes through this sport and goes undefeated. It's just a matter of time before you make one mistake and it's either lights out or you get submitted.

Simplex3 · 02-01-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVE

Not any more. You have to go back a few years to find THAT GSP. He doesn't exist anymore. He has been nothing but RED hot since the Serra fight....THAT is when he started to take things more serious and it has shown in EVERY one of his performances since then. He has utterly dominated everyone since the Serra fight. Period. There's your explanation. Catch up with current events before you spout this crap.

That was a year and what, two fights ago? Color me impressed.

Simplex3 · 02-01-2009, 12:21 PM

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That was a year and what, two fights ago? Color me impressed.

Here it is. It's been a lot longer than I thought. How time does fly when you're getting old.

04-07-2007 : Lost to Serra in the first. Was wholly unprepared.
08-25-2007 : Beat Koscheck by a decision. Not a great win IMO, but I didn't see the fight.
12-19-2007 : Kicked the crap out of an old Matt Hughes.
04-19-2008 : Finally beat Serra, who isn't very good.
08-09-2008 : Beat John Fitch, but it went the full 5 rounds.
01-31-2009 : Beat up a lightweight fighter.

The guy has been fighting every four months. That's pretty impressive. More guys should be doing this. Just stay in shape.

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suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	Who gives a F if guys are cocky. They're professional fighters. They're all cocky. You'd have to be just to make in that sport. I think after this, BJ should just stay at 155 and dominate.
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