#3 overall pick... a 20 year history

**Manila-Chief** · 02-08-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

but either way, they bear the curse of the junior QB... hard to overcome.

Again, if Sanchez stayed in school and had another great year and we sucked enough to be able to draft him I would have been elated... as it is, not so much.

If he does have the talent, intelligence, mental make up, desire, etc. ... to be a QBOTF, it seems to me being a junior will not matter. The staying in school another year will only help the talent evaluator. It seems to me that if he has the tools he can develop.

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Honestly, who cares?

Bill Parcells obviously liked Henne and Newsome liked Flacco. Those are two of the best in the business, so I will trust their judgment over yours.

How do we know that Parcells didn't like Flacco? Did he have a chance to draft him? IIRC Flacco went in the 1st. round and Henne in the 2nd.???? It's true Newsome had a chance to draft either.

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Originally Posted by H5N1

at this point, I'm sick to ****ing death of 'good, solid starters.' for every year save 1.5 of my 20 year fandom, I've never seen the chiefs with a franchise QB. a guy who could take the team on his back. the 1.5 years I saw it, we went further into the playoffs than we had since the early 70's.

I believe it's worth gambling (which won't be MUCH of a gamble if pioli is all that he's been anointed as) to get that high upside guy (sanchez or stafford)... you draft either (I'd prefer stafford--he's been nails every time I've seen him, but sanchez may have a higher ceiling) and let him sit for at least a year and learn the ropes. you know, get a competant QB coach and offensive coordinator, build the offense around him, and put him in situations where he can build his confidence.

anyway, I digress. the absolute abject fear of QBs around here is baffling. you'd think that everybody would be sick to death of other teams having that guy and shredding us. remember the 90's? just take a look at who beat us in the playoffs. every playoff loss this decade? peyton ****ing manning. srsly. when's it gonna be our turn to have that franchise guy to rip OTHER people's hearts out?

After reading the article about DeBurg teaching QB's, I think the real question should be if the newly drafted QB's get the coaching/teaching that will help them be a success.

I agree, if Pioli thinks the QB that falls to us is worthy of our pick, I'm more than willing to support him drafting the QB. Why, a top quality QB makes it easier for a team to win and can lead us for the next dozen years. Usually, top draft picks have more talent, which helps him be successful.

**doomy3** · 02-08-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief

If he does have the talent, intelligence, mental make up, desire, etc. ... to be a QBOTF, it seems to me being a junior will not matter. The staying in school another year will only help the talent evaluator. It seems to me that if he has the tools he can develop.

How do we know that Parcells didn't like Flacco? Did he have a chance to draft him? IIRC Flacco went in the 1st. round and Henne in the 2nd.???? It's true Newsome had a chance to draft either.

After reading the article about DeBurg teaching QB's, I think the real question should be if the newly drafted QB's get the coaching/teaching that will help them be a success.

I agree, if Pioli thinks the QB that falls to us is worthy of our pick, I'm more than willing to support him drafting the QB. Why, a top quality QB makes it easier for a team to win and can lead us for the next dozen years. Usually, top draft picks have more talent, which helps him be successful.

Maybe you missed the whole conversation that post was in reference to...

I didn't say anything about Parcells not liking Flacco. I was just pointing out that two of the brightest minds in football liked those 2 QBs who Mecca didn't, and that I would probably trust their judgement over his.

**Manila-Chief** · 02-09-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Maybe you missed the whole conversation that post was in reference to...

I didn't say anything about Parcells not liking Flacco. I was just pointing out that two of the brightest minds in football liked those 2 QBs who Mecca didn't, and that I would probably trust their judgement over his.

Okay! That's a better explanation!!! And, I agree.