Chiefs What's with the Thigpen fixation? - Page 18

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 04:53 PM

Now I fully admit it isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be on this forum but I've yet to figure out this fixation with him. It's really bad at some other unnamed forums..

I honestly have no way of comprehending what it's about. It's like everything people said about Croyle has now been lumped onto Thigpen. "Well um he's the guy we don't need another QB"

The worst part is the people who don't want a QB this year then say well if Thigpen doesn't work out we can just take Bradford or McCoy, it's like peoples brains fell out.

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 06:48 PM

If you really think spreading out the field and leaving your OT's unprotected helps the OL, you need to go back to football school.

Micjones · 02-10-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The quotation says "60 plays" not "60 pass attempts."

Read it again...

"throwing the ball for 60 plays a game"

**dirk digler** · 02-10-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you're a big fan of the spread check this out...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202128

"This is America, so we love to see the ball fly all over the place. But if you are going to make a living in the National Football League, you can't do it in the spread or shotgun formation, throwing the ball for 60 plays a game," Terry Robiskie said. "In the NFL, if you repeatedly leave those two tackles open, they are going to get beat. You can say it's a quick offense, and the ball is going to come out quick. That's accurate. But just as the ball comes out, that $80 million quarterback is going to get hit in his mouth and hit often. That's just the history of this game.

"On this level there are too many Jason Taylors and Bruce Smiths in this world, and they will be better than your best tackle."

When was that quote? I mean the Pats live out of the spread and shotgun and so do the Colts

**DeezNutz** · 02-10-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Is that coach currently working?

Gruden.

TeeeeBooowww on the sweep.

Micjones · 02-10-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

60 is an purposely exaggerated number....it's saying when you are throwing at a 2-1 even 3-1 rate out of the shotgun constantly you are begging for your QB to get beat around.

Okay. At least you agree that the number's exaggerated.

I tend to agree though.

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

When was that quote? I mean the Pats live out of the spread and shotgun and so do the Colts

Are you aware that the Colts base formation involves 2 TE's one lined up next to the OT?

They are not leaving their OT's open..same for the Patriots.

**DeezNutz** · 02-10-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Read it again...

"throwing the ball for 60 plays a game"

Right. Plays are different from attempts.

Let's not get this thing twisted.

**SAUTO** · 02-10-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

You realize that Sanchez has superb footwork right now, don't you?

yes if you read you would see that i'm ALL FOR sanchez.

MIAdragon · 02-10-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This.

Croyle was sacked 1 time in 2 starts: .5 sacks per game.

Huard was sacked 4 times in 3 starts: 1.3 sacks per game.

Thigpen was sacked 21 times in 11 starts: 1.9 sacks per game.

Thigpen got hit WAY more, which is what happens in the spread, yet he stayed healthy.

Some of the benefits of the spread

1. They create one on one match ups.
2. They allow you to take advantage of the speed your team has.
3. They limit the defense by formation.
4. They reduce blitzing.
5. They reduce the number of blocks that need to be made.
6. They reduce the amount of time that blocks have to be held.

No way the spread contributes to hits on the QB, its the exact opp.

Tiger's Fan · 02-10-2009, 06:51 PM

Substitute the name "Thigpen" for the name "Croyle", and these are last years posts.

Micjones · 02-10-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

If you really think spreading out the field and leaving your OT's unprotected helps the OL, you need to go back to football school.

I don't and it doesn't.

No argument there.

Mecca · 02-10-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Some of the benefits of the spread

1. They create one on one match ups.
2. They allow you to take advantage of the speed your team has.
3. They limit the defense by formation.
4. They reduce blitzing.
5. They reduce the number of blocks that need to be made.
6. They reduce the amount of time that blocks have to be held.

No way the spread contributes to hits on the QB, its the exact opp.

You need some football school.....I don't know if you are aware of this but if you watch Baltimore play if you lineup in a spread formation they blitz it every single time.

Thig Lyfe · 02-10-2009, 06:52 PM

This is my stance on Thigpen:

1. He was one of the few highlights of this past season.
2. I don't believe he should be handed the starting job, but I also think he has enough talent to be able to earn it in TC.
3. A competent coaching staff could turn him into a franchise QB...
4. BUT, if there's an opportunity to draft a top QB this year, it would be silly not to take it.
5. Ultimately, none of this matters, because it's up to Pioli. And I trust his opinions (whatever they may be) more than those of anybody on the board. Even Mecca.

Micjones · 02-10-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Right. Plays are different from attempts.

Let's not get this thing twisted.

*Sigh*

"Throwing for 60 plays"
There's no way to twist that. Mecca himself said the number was exaggerated.

I understood the quote. YOU...um...did not.

**SAUTO** · 02-10-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This.

Croyle was sacked 1 time in 2 starts: .5 sacks per game.

Huard was sacked 4 times in 3 starts: 1.3 sacks per game.

Thigpen was sacked 21 times in 11 starts: 1.9 sacks per game.

Thigpen got hit WAY more, which is what happens in the spread, yet he stayed healthy.

why not give the whole story? pass attempts. he also had MANY more pass attempts per game than either

02-10-2009, 04:53 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	What's with the Thigpen fixation? Now I fully admit it isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be on this forum but I've yet to figure out this fixation with him. It's really bad at some other unnamed forums.. I honestly have no way of comprehending what it's about. It's like everything people said about Croyle has now been lumped onto Thigpen. "Well um he's the guy we don't need another QB" The worst part is the people who don't want a QB this year then say well if Thigpen doesn't work out we can just take Bradford or McCoy, it's like peoples brains fell out.
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02-10-2009, 06:48 PM	#256
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	If you really think spreading out the field and leaving your OT's unprotected helps the OL, you need to go back to football school.
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02-10-2009, 06:52 PM	#268
Thig Lyfe Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Thigpen's America Casino cash: $10004900	This is my stance on Thigpen: 1. He was one of the few highlights of this past season. 2. I don't believe he should be handed the starting job, but I also think he has enough talent to be able to earn it in TC. 3. A competent coaching staff could turn him into a franchise QB... 4. BUT, if there's an opportunity to draft a top QB this year, it would be silly not to take it. 5. Ultimately, none of this matters, because it's up to Pioli. And I trust his opinions (whatever they may be) more than those of anybody on the board. Even Mecca.
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