Nightmare Situation

[milkman]

Originally Posted by philfree

IMO the Chiefs are in a good position. If they can't get a QB at #3 then they get to pick the best player available with that pick. How could this be considered bad? And don't tell me it's about money and contracts because the Chiefs are gonna end up with about $50mil of cap space and Clarke has the money if he chooses to spend it.


PhilFree

It's a bad position to be in because the players left if both Sanchez and Stafford are gone are bad value picks, no matter who we select.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by milkman

It's a bad position to be in because the players left if both Sanchez and Stafford are gone are bad value picks, no matter who we select.

Don't tell the anti QB crowd this, if they both got picked those people would start jumping for joy.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by milkman

It's a bad position to be in because the players left if both Sanchez and Stafford are gone are bad value picks, no matter who we select.

Value compared to what? I mean in the end what a team wants is to get the best/right players. Right? I'd prefer Stafford with the third pick and sands the lack of starts I'd be excited about Sanchez. If they're both off the board and we get to pick the best player in the draft besides those two QBs then I still see a very positive situation. Really if those two are both off the board we'll be in the position to make the ultimate value pick.


PhilFree

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by philfree

Value compared to what? I mean in the end what a team wants is to get the best/right players. Right? I'd prefer Stafford with the third pick and sands the lack of starts I'd be excited about Sanchez. If they're both off the board and we get to pick the best player in the draft besides those two QBs then I still see a very positive situation. Really if those two are both off the board we'll be in the position to make the ultimate value pick.


PhilFree

Because no one else represents a value to US after the QB's.

The 3 OT's are the only other players worthy of that pick, but only at LT. We have out LT, and you don't take a RT that high in the draft.

Crabtree is way to slow (and is proving it by avoiding running at the combine) to justify that pick. He's nowhere near the elite talent Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson or Fitzgerald were coming out.

It's bad value to take a LB that high, unless they project to be the next DT or LT. Curry is a coverbacker, and as much as I like Maualuga in the middle, it's way to high to take him.

That leaves us with Michael Jenkins at CB as the only true VALUE at our pick should both the QB's be gone.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Because no one else represents a value to US after the QB's.

The 3 OT's are the only other players worthy of that pick, but only at LT. We have out LT, and you don't take a RT that high in the draft.

Crabtree is way to slow (and is proving it by avoiding running at the combine) to justify that pick. He's nowhere near the elite talent Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson or Fitzgerald were coming out.

It's bad value to take a LB that high, unless they project to be the next DT or LT. Curry is a coverbacker, and as much as I like Maualuga in the middle, it's way to high to take him.

That leaves us with Michael Jenkins at CB as the only true VALUE at our pick should both the QB's be gone.

I know everything in your post. And I understand it. End the end however we are gonna have the 3rd pick in the draft a very good player will be available. That is not a bad situation.

I think every draft site I've seen as Curry ranked above Jenkins.

I bet Pioli makes the best out of it no matter what happens.


PhilFree

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Because no one else represents a value to US after the QB's.

The 3 OT's are the only other players worthy of that pick, but only at LT. We have out LT, and you don't take a RT that high in the draft.

Crabtree is way to slow (and is proving it by avoiding running at the combine) to justify that pick. He's nowhere near the elite talent Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson or Fitzgerald were coming out.

It's bad value to take a LB that high, unless they project to be the next DT or LT. Curry is a coverbacker, and as much as I like Maualuga in the middle, it's way to high to take him.

That leaves us with Michael Jenkins at CB as the only true VALUE at our pick should both the QB's be gone.

What kind of time did AJ and Fitz run? I have been wondering this.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by doomy3

What kind of time did AJ and Fitz run? I have been wondering this.

Can't find anything official, I thought AJ ran a sub-4.4 time.



AJ: 4.43

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/1211.html

Fitz: 4.53

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ers/46239.html


FWIW, people are saying that Crabtree is not running because he'll turn in a time in excess of 4.65 in Indy, and he knows he can time better on a fast track at his pro day.

Basically, he's unwilling to run on a level playing field.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Can't find anything official, I thought AJ ran a sub-4.4 time.



AJ: 4.43

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/1211.html

Fitz: 4.53

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ers/46239.html


FWIW, people are saying that Crabtree is not running because he'll turn in a time in excess of 4.65 in Indy, and he knows he can time better on a fast track at his pro day.

Basically, he's unwilling to run on a level playing field.

People are saying he would run a 4.65? No shit? Man, I don't see that when watching him play.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by doomy3

People are saying he would run a 4.65? No shit? Man, I don't see that when watching him play.

The fastest time I've found for him this year is 4.55

http://www.gbnreport.com/2007wrs.html

I've seen reports that he ran a 4.45 at Lubbock his freshman year.

I've seen reports that he's been timed as high as 4.65.