What's with the Thigpen fixation?

[Mecca]

Now I fully admit it isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be on this forum but I've yet to figure out this fixation with him. It's really bad at some other unnamed forums..

I honestly have no way of comprehending what it's about. It's like everything people said about Croyle has now been lumped onto Thigpen. "Well um he's the guy we don't need another QB"

The worst part is the people who don't want a QB this year then say well if Thigpen doesn't work out we can just take Bradford or McCoy, it's like peoples brains fell out.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

"to cite"

Yes, like a verb.

It's a colloquialism in speech, but not an accepted form in formal writing. Trust me. Key here being the word "formal."

Drop this. I goofed the quotation--but disagreeing with me on this is dumber than my initial smart-ass reply.

Quote's been used as a noun for something like 120 years last I checked.
Not arguing, just saying...

If you're going to bother correcting someone...
A little fact-checking might help.
Just sayin...

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't have a problem with drafting a QB in the top 5 and I think many people don't. Those who believe that Thigpen should be the outright starter and that no competition should be brought in, I feel, are in the minority among fans with any knowledge of the game.

That being said, Mecca, I would also argue "why are there so many so fixated on wanting Thigpen to fail?" There is just as big of a contingency of fans who want Thigpen cut or who believe he is nothing better than a #3 QB, given the season he had last year.

My pet peeve is not people who want to draft a QB. It's those who want to guarantee a starting job to a QB taken in the top 5, and who have doomed Thigpen to failure before he has had a full shot to prove himself and will use every last excuse to justify why he's a lousy QB. That's where most of the frustration, at least on this board, seems to come from.

I also think the first sentence of this thread is funny.

Why did you think the Thigpen support would be more than it is, Mecca? Is it because he played well enough to where even you would be able to understand if people on this board were supporters of him going into next year as QB?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Quote's been used as a noun for something like 120 years last I checked.
Not arguing, just saying...

If you're going to bother correcting someone...
A little fact-checking might help.
Just sayin...

This is my last response on this.

I was giving you the business because of the *sigh* bullshit that you like to do in your posts. That's all.

I explained the quote/quotation thing, and I'm correct. On this subject, there's no one more qualified on this forum. More qualified than the first Google entry. Read my full explanation. Now, drop it. Let's talk about more important things. Like people who think QB's are like rimjobs.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by doomy3

I also think the first sentence of this thread is funny.

Why did you think the Thigpen support would be more than it is, Mecca? Is it because he played well enough to where even you would be able to understand if people on this board were supporters of him going into next year as QB?

Because during the course of the season we had people comparing him to ****ing John Elway.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Because during the course of the season we had people comparing him to ****ing John Elway.

Ok you are going to have to post names so we can all point and laugh at them

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Ok you are going to have to post names so we can all point and laugh at them

You don't remember the "Thigpen compares favorably to" posts?

This has been a running joke amongst several of us.

[Sam Hall]

this is obligatory

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't have a problem with drafting a QB in the top 5 and I think many people don't. Those who believe that Thigpen should be the outright starter and that no competition should be brought in, I feel, are in the minority among fans with any knowledge of the game.

That being said, Mecca, I would also argue "why are there so many so fixated on wanting Thigpen to fail?" There is just as big of a contingency of fans who want Thigpen cut or who believe he is nothing better than a #3 QB, given the season he had last year.

My pet peeve is not people who want to draft a QB. It's those who want to guarantee a starting job to a QB taken in the top 5, and who have doomed Thigpen to failure before he has had a full shot to prove himself and will use every last excuse to justify why he's a lousy QB. That's where most of the frustration, at least on this board, seems to come from.

That's the thing, it's very unlikely that you can have your cake and eat it too.

Say we draft Sanchez. I don't think anyone has a problem with him sitting for at least the 1st half of 09, if not the whole year.

But by doing that, it mean that either:

a) You have to bring in a veteran to run your pro style offense, or

b) Thigpen has to be proficient enough to warrant playing while Sanchez sits.

You're not going to draft a QB at 3, and pay him that money to sit and learn an offense you're not planning to use him in. You can't have him sitting on the bench learning a real offense, while the rest of the team is running the Pistol, because that's the only thing Thigpen can run.

Otherwise, option c) is to start Sanchez right away.

After what we all saw early in 2008, I have a hard time believing that anyone thinks that b) is an option. There's no way that in one offseason, Thigpen can get to a level of proficiency in a pro style offense that either Sanchez or a veteran already have.

So like I said, something has to give.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You don't remember the "Thigpen compares favorably to" posts?

This has been a running joke amongst several of us.

Vaguely but I have hard time remembering what happened last week.

So I take it they said Thigpen numbers in his "rookie" season = Elway's numbers?'

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by Basileus777

Why do you keep coming back to this? It's not a question of can, it's a question of whether or not we should expect enough improvement to pass on Stafford/Sanchez. And the answer to that in my opinion is a clear no.

Rep

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That's the thing, it's very unlikely that you can have your cake and eat it too.

Say we draft Sanchez. I don't think anyone has a problem with him sitting for at least the 1st half of 09, if not the whole year.

But by doing that, it mean that either:

a) You have to bring in a veteran to run your pro style offense, or

b) Thigpen has to be proficient enough to warrant playing while Sanchez sits.

You're not going to draft a QB at 3, and pay him that money to sit and learn an offense you're not planning to use him in. You can't have him sitting on the bench learning a real offense, while the rest of the team is running the Pistol, because that's the only thing Thigpen can run.

Otherwise, option c) is to start Sanchez right away.

After what we all saw early in 2008, I have a hard time believing that anyone thinks that b) is an option. There's no way that in one offseason, Thigpen can get to a level of proficiency in a pro style offense that either Sanchez or a veteran already have.

So like I said, something has to give.

I think it's impossible to know. He didn't get any work last offseason, so it will be interesting to see how much he improves his dropback game this offseason.

[Sam Hall]

I don't think Scott Pioli will settle for Tyler Thigpen after he saw what Tom Brady can do.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Vaguely but I have hard time remembering what happened last week.

So I take it they said Thigpen numbers in his "rookie" season = Elway's numbers?'

That he "compares favorably" to every ****ing HOF quarterback who has ever walked the face of the earth.

Elway, Marino, Manning, Brady. You name it.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

I don't think Scott Pioli will settle for Tyler Thigpen after he saw what Tom Brady can do.

He also saw what Matt Cassell can do, which was pretty similar to what Tom Brady was doing.

Pretty good system with other great players.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by doomy3

I think it's impossible to know. He didn't get any work last offseason, so it will be interesting to see how much he improves his dropback game this offseason.

I agree, it's impossible to KNOW.

However, I'd be shocked if you didn't agree that it's a pretty fair assumption that a 7th round pick out of Coastal Carolina who knows nothing but the spread - with ONE offseason of prep-time - is going to be anywhere near as proficient in an offense that a veteran or Stafford/Sanchez have been running for their entire football careers.