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Old 02-11-2009, 12:06 AM   #1
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I don't think we've lost sight of anything at all.

The number crunching has been the evidence to prove that you have the best odds of finding a franchise QB early in the draft. Period.

Whether or not Thigpen is a franchise QB isn't worth discussing, IMO.
But again, those numbers are skewed. So you can't put a "period" behind the statement simply because the numbers are available. Yes, first round picks are more likely to be franchise QBs. But again, I'd be interested to review the average number of starts every first round QB has had. My guess is that the majority of first round QBs have had at least 2-3 seasons to develop.

No 3rd round QB would EVER get the amount of time to develop that Eli Manning got. I understand the reasons why. But if they don't get the same opportunities, it's not a fair comparison to say that a 3rd round pick is 100 times less likely to succeed than a 1st round QB.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:58 AM   #2
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No 3rd round QB would EVER get the amount of time to develop that Eli Manning got. I understand the reasons why. But if they don't get the same opportunities, it's not a fair comparison to say that a 3rd round pick is 100 times less likely to succeed than a 1st round QB.
Nonsense.

Trent Edwards is getting "time" to develop. Brodie Croyle was given "time to develop". Jeff Hostetler was given "time to develop". Chris Redman was finally cut by Baltimore but won some games for Atlanta in 2007. Chris Simms ring a bell?

The bottom line is that you're confusing "time to develop" with first round talent, meaning that Manning was ready to play immediately. Sure, he made mistakes but he wasn't so far behind the curve that he held back the team from competing.

And in year four, he won a Super Bowl. So I'd say that the decision to start him mid-way into his rookie year paid off handsomely.

Because bottom line: Is that why they play the game? To win the Super Bowl?
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:09 PM   #3
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And in year four, he won a Super Bowl. So I'd say that the decision to start him mid-way into his rookie year paid off handsomely.

Because bottom line: Is that why they play the game? To win the Super Bowl?
No. They play the game so that we can tailgate and get drunk in the parking lot.

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