Chiefs Retained Chiefs' coaching staff - Page 3

Tertullian · 02-17-2009, 05:30 PM

Chiefs | Six coaches retained
Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:14:31 -0800

The Kansas City Chiefs have announced they have retained offensive line coach Bob Bicknell, assistant offensive line coach Joe D'Alessandris, offensive coordinator Chan Gailey, defensive line coach Tim Krumrie, assistant strength and conditioning coach Brent Salazar and strength and conditioning coach Cedric Smith.

Micjones · 02-17-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Then how can Tim Krumrie be defended? He has more high picks than any other coach does.

I'm not certain that what I offered up was anything like a defense.
My point is... The fact that they're high draft picks hardly makes them worthy of having been drafted there or any good for that matter.

Ryan Sims was a former #1. And he sucks ass.

Which one of those players is truly worth their salt?
Hali's a middling Defensive End at best and we know very little about the other three.

Mecca · 02-17-2009, 06:20 PM

I remember when people liked Tamba Hali and would get pissed off at me for saying what you just said.

keg in kc · 02-17-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yeah, I hope that's the case.

If it's not Dorsey, then, Hali, McBride and others shouldn't be putting down firm roots in the KC area. .

Well, Dorsey's was a rookie, McBride and Tyler were second year players who barely saw the field in year one, Hali was the most seasoned, in his third whole year. That's not exactly a lot of experience to build on. They should be better in '09 by default. You'd hope.

Micjones · 02-17-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I remember when people liked Tamba Hali and would get pissed off at me for saying what you just said.

Mecca I was one of those people.
It's time to tell the truth about that guy AND Derrick Johnson though.
They're both starters in this league, good serviceable guys, but have and likely never will live up to their draft picks.

DomerNKC · 02-17-2009, 06:21 PM

damn it carl!!!!!!!

Captain Obvious · 02-17-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Thank you Captain Obvious.

You're welcome?

Micjones · 02-17-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Well, Dorsey's was a rookie, McBride and Tyler were second year players who barely saw the field in year one, Hali was the most seasoned, in his third whole year. That's not exactly a lot of experience to build on. They should be better in '09 by default. You'd hope.

I'm not so sure that we can depend on them to get much better.
I think the two DT's will improve. How much remains to be seen. Move Tamba back to his natural spot and he should be okay... I'm not sold on McBride.

We need to treat the D-Line like the QB position.
We can't assume ANY of these guys will be the ultimate answers there except maybe Dorsey. And that's only because he's just a 1 year player to this point.

Micjones · 02-17-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

You're welcome?

old_geezer · 02-17-2009, 06:26 PM

My first thought was that the retaining of Gailey as OC means the Chiefs really aren't that much in love with Stafford or Sanchez in the first round and there is a distinct possibility that Thigpen will be the starter this year with Croyle being given one more chance to stay healthy. Lord, I hope I'm wrong.

**DeezNutz** · 02-17-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm not so sure that we can depend on them to get much better.
I think the two DT's will improve. How much remains to be seen. Move Tamba back to his natural spot and he should be okay... I'm not sold on McBride.

We need to treat the D-Line like the QB position.
We can't assume ANY of these guys will be the ultimate answers there except maybe Dorsey. And that's only because he's just a 1 year player to this point.

Dorsey definite hope and potential. McBride and Tank should still be able to develop.

But Hali is what he is. He's the DJ of the line, and that was absolutely a good comparison.

**the Talking Can** · 02-17-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yeah, I hope that's the case.

If it's not Dorsey, then, Hali, McBride and others shouldn't be putting down firm roots in the KC area.

Where's the line from Herm about this team being 85% finished? ****ing idiot.

this basically puts the lie to the "Herm is a great drafter"....

Pioli and Haley must think this roster is total and complete shit....which, it actually is....but i still can't fathom keeping krumrie....no one has improved under him..no one, unless you think Tank is some great DT....

and if we're keeping Gailey just because of Thigpen then I am on warp speed to pissed.....

Micjones · 02-17-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Dorsey definite hope and potential. McBride and Tank should still be able to develop.

But Hali is what he is. He's the DJ of the line, and that was absolutely a good comparison.

Not time to give up on anyone yet.
Hali's a good serviceable DE in this league.
We should temper our expectations with him at this point and hope like hell we can coach the others up.

**DeezNutz** · 02-17-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

this basically puts the lie to the "Herm is a great drafter"....

Pioli and Haley must think this roster is total and complete shit....which, it actually is....but i still can't fathom keeping krumrie....no one has improved under him..no one, unless you think Tank is some great DT....

and if we're keeping Gailey just because of Thigpen then I am on warp speed to pissed.....

Agreed and agreed.

**** you for even bringing up the possible Thigpen angle. I hadn't even begun to fathom this possibility. Right now, I'm operating under the assumption that these people aren't complete ****ing idiots.

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Not time to give up on anyone yet.
Hali's a good serviceable DE in this league.
We should temper our expectations with him at this point and hope like hell we can coach the others up.

That's what I was trying to say. He deserves to be in the rotation, but he's basically just a guy.

keg in kc · 02-17-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm not so sure that we can depend on them to get much better.
I think the two DT's will improve. How much remains to be seen. Move Tamba back to his natural spot and he should be okay... I'm not sold on McBride.

We need to treat the D-Line like the QB position.
We can't assume ANY of these guys will be the ultimate answers there except maybe Dorsey. And that's only because he's just a 1 year player to this point.

Tank should be okay, if they can keep him motivated. I'm not sure Tyler has a position, he may be a tweener that doesn't work anywhere. Or he may be the next John Browning - not a star, but really useful across the line.

I'm fine with Hali, but we still need a rush end of some kind.

CoMoChief · 02-17-2009, 06:37 PM

Well, see here at Chiefsplanet, people seem to think that rookies should immediately become probowlers.

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