NFL Draft Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick? - Page 4

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 08:58 PM

Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career...

Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position.

Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.

**dirk digler** · 02-18-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That's completely different because then that would make him a pass rusher.

Ok that makes sense...duh

Dark Horse · 02-18-2009, 09:47 PM

Someone brought this up the other day. I wonder how many people posting either pro or con on Curry have actually seen him play.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brandon

Interesting comparison: who do you guys think is a better LB Aaron Curry or AJ Hawk. Hawk was the last LB taken in top 5.

AJ Hawk is a great example because he hasn't been worth his pick...

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Someone brought this up the other day. I wonder how many people posting either pro or con on Curry have actually seen him play.

I've seen him quite a bit....nice player and all, runs well tackles well, but he's a general 4-3 backer which lowers his value.

He played for Wake Forest I'm going to wager if he had top end pass rush ability he'd have been blitzed a ton since they tend to lack overall talent.

Deberg_1990 · 02-18-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He went 5.
Sanders went 3.
Peterson went 7.
Ki-Jana Carter went 1.
Blair Thomas went 2.
Ronnie Brown went 2.
Cedric Benson went 4.
Cadillac Williams went 5.
Eric Dickerson went 2.
Walter Payton went 4.

Those are some of the uber high ones.

Reggie Bush went #2 overall.

Dark Horse · 02-18-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I've seen him quite a bit....nice player and all, runs well tackles well, but he's a general 4-3 backer which lowers his value.

He played for Wake Forest I'm going to wager if he had top end pass rush ability he'd have been blitzed a ton since they tend to lack overall talent.

So he's Derrick Johnson part 2.

CrazyHorse · 02-18-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think Crazy either likes to argue or he was a big fan of the Carl years.

If it was just to argue, there's plenty of reason. I dont see the emergency QB situation that some do. I could be wrong. Also, I am a fan of defense. I would rather build a good defense than a good offense. Of course, we would all like to have both.

As for arguement sake, I think I have a good one. The 3rd pick in the draft for a green QB is very risky. You have attempted to communicate that it's some sort of slam dunk. I disagree. Sanchez may wind up being great. But there is nothing to indicate that it is even likely. Many good QBs from college come into the NFL and do squirt. Especially those with little experience.

If we draft a QB I will be happy enough about it. If we draft Currey, that'll be cool too. The main thing for me is that we get a good player. If we get a good player, it will be worth the 3rd pick.

I dont pretend to know everything about these players, as some with several hundred posts do. I'm just puttin my opinion out there.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

If it was just to argue, there's plenty of reason. I dont see the emergency QB situation that some do. I could be wrong. Also, I am a fan of defense. I would rather build a good defense than a good offense. Of course, we would all like to have both.

As for arguement sake, I think I have a good one. The 3rd pick in the draft for a green QB is very risky. You have attempted to communicate that it's some sort of slam dunk. I disagree. Sanchez may wind up being great. But there is nothing to indicate that it is even likely. Many good QBs from college come into the NFL and do squirt. Especially those with little experience.

If we draft a QB I will be happy enough about it. If we draft Currey, that'll be cool too. The main thing for me is that we get a good player. If we get a good player, it will be worth the 3rd pick.

I dont pretend to know everything about these players, as some with several hundred posts do. I'm just puttin my opinion out there.

Defense guy huh, well tell me what awesome defense was built around it's OLB that didn't get sacks.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Horse

So he's Derrick Johnson part 2.

That's probably valid other than I think he's more disciplined and aggressive, to the point of being over aggressive and over running plays.

Derrick Johnson is just a heavily passive player.

melbar · 02-18-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Hes the type of player you pick when you like to "play it safe"

Peterson would have picked him.

OK, Safe does not mean bad or incapeable of growth. It just means a guy has performed and you know a certain amount of info about a guy that you know you get. People use "safe" like a curse word around here. So "unsafe" is better? A guy who hasnt lived up to his "potential" for some reason is better? I think potential is a much bigger curse word. It means you arent getting it done yet and you need to step it up. Hard workers with a solid skill set are "safe" because they're already getting it done and moving in the right direction.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

OK, Safe does not mean bad or incapeable of growth. It just means a guy has performed and you know a certain amount of info about a guy that you know you get. People use "safe" like a curse word around here. So "unsafe" is better? A guy who hasnt lived up to his "potential" for some reason is better? I think potential is a much bigger curse word. It means you arent getting it done yet and you need to step it up. Hard workers with a solid skill set are "safe" because they're already getting it done and moving in the right direction.

He's a LB...

You could literally go sign a guy for half the price.

Dark Horse · 02-18-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That's probably valid other than I think he's more disciplined and aggressive, to the point of being over aggressive and over running plays.

Derrick Johnson is just a heavily passive player.

That sounds like DJ with a little Bernard Pollard thrown in.

CrazyHorse · 02-18-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Defense guy huh, well tell me what awesome defense was built around it's OLB that didn't get sacks.

You saying a guy CANT get a sack is the same thing as you saying a QB CANT learn to play offense. Yet you're the 1st one to jump in and say your boy who has little to no experience will have no problem being the next great QB.

I dont get too hung up in your evaluations. They're pretty self serrving.

I dont understand what big benefit a bench QB has to offer us. I mean, you're not thinking someone with no experience is gonna come out of college and wow us all on an NFL level do you?

Of course you do.

If I had to guess, I'd say you're the one who likes to argue. Since that is what the thread is designed to do. Argue a point saying the same shit you've been saying for the last week 500 times over. Like it's somehow going to make more sense now.

Give it up man. It's really not that ****ing important in the regular scope of life. Take a break. There's more to life than convincing/insulting everyone into your way of felating Sanchez.

You're starting to come off like a fricken kook.

melbar · 02-18-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Defense guy huh, well tell me what awesome defense was built around it's OLB that didn't get sacks.

Ray lewis hasnt had 4 sacks since '97.

Reerun_KC · 02-18-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

You saying a guy CANT get a sack is the same thing as you saying a QB CANT learn to play offense. Yet you're the 1st one to jump in and say your boy who has little to no experience will have no problem being the next great QB.

I dont get too hung up in your evaluations. They're pretty self serrving.

I dont understand what big benefit a bench QB has to offer us. I mean, you're not thinking someone with no experience is gonna come out of college and wow us all on an NFL level do you?

Of course you do.

If I had to guess, I'd say you're the one who likes to argue. Since that is what the thread is designed to do. Argue a point saying the same shit you've been saying for the last week 500 times over. Like it's somehow going to make more sense now.

Give it up man. It's really not that ****ing important in the regular scope of life. Take a break. There's more to life than convincing/insulting everyone into your way of felating Sanchez.

You're starting to come off like a fricken kook.

So Curry is a sure fire Probowl OLB in his 1st two years? He is an immediate impact player that will redefine the position?

02-18-2009, 08:58 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick? Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career... Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position. Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.
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