Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10

[chiefforlife]

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.

[Rigodan]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Like I give a shit if people make remarks about Pioli personally. I'm talking football. You can call pioli a fat piece of gay child molester and its not going to bother me. But question his football intelligence and you show yourself to be an ignorant fool.

By the way for a second FAX I thought I had insulted a member of the clergy but your post relieved me of any guilt your a classless douchebag like the rest of meccas must draft a qb gay posse.
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Still waiting...

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Like I give a shit if people make remarks about Pioli personally. I'm talking football. You can call pioli a fat piece of gay child molester and its not going to bother me. But question his football intelligence and you show yourself to be an ignorant fool.

By the way for a second FAX I thought I had insulted a member of the clergy but your post relieved me of any guilt your a classless douchebag like the rest of meccas must draft a qb gay posse.
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I'm just a tad concerned that our new GM has a gay dog and a shoe car.

Who wouldn't be?

FAX

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

How does that sonofabitch have any green bars?

Now that's an EXCELLENT question!
I've been working as much as the system will allow.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by Crush

Dude, you really do not want to invoke the wrath of the board.


Please refer to Shygums the registered sex offender and Midnight Vulture for further information.

Like I care. The wrath of internet losers

Ooooooooh.
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[DeezNutz]

It's great to return to a football topic, but that blurb was an enormous sampling of pre-draft bullshit.

1. We're going to know the entire board. Wow, that's relieving.
2. We're at 3 but could be at 23. Really? So if a team gives you its entire draft this year, literally, plus some, you'd be willing to make drastic changes. Great. And now for reality.

Other than that, very substantive.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Now that's an EXCELLENT question!
I've been working as much as the system will allow.

And you get green bars how?
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[doomy3]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's great to return to a football topic, but that blurb was an enormous sampling of pre-draft bullshit.

1. We're going to know the entire board. Wow, that's relieving.
2. We're at 3 but could be at 23. Really? So if a team gives you its entire draft this year, literally, plus some, you'd be willing to make drastic changes. Great. And now for reality.

Other than that, very substantive.

Well, I think his point is that it just so happens that New England holds the #23 pick. Could there be something to the Cassel rumor or whatever

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Now that's an EXCELLENT question!
I've been working as much as the system will allow.

I expended a shit ton of ordinance, and I'm able to swing a decent stick.

I almost wonder if he's bankrolled by some long-surviving true fans hiding in the shadows.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

And you get green bars how?
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For not being you, or like you.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by FAX

I'm just a tad concerned that our new GM has a gay dog and a shoe car.

Who wouldn't be?

FAX

I know Mr. FAX. I mean if he has the acquired tastes of a gay dog and a shoe car, what does that insinuate about his future decisions? Is the KC Wolf going to come out of the closet while being escorted by gay bikers? Is he going to insist that the Chiefs change their uniforms to bright pink? Is the Native American mascot going to come back, but will ride a shoe car out on the field? I am shocked and appalled about the possibilities.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I expended a shit ton of ordinance, and I'm able to swing a decent stick.

I almost wonder if he's bankrolled by some long-surviving true fans hiding in the shadows.

God damned rats.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's great to return to a football topic, but that blurb was an enormous sampling of pre-draft bullshit.

1. We're going to know the entire board. Wow, that's relieving.
2. We're at 3 but could be at 23. Really? So if a team gives you its entire draft this year, literally, plus some, you'd be willing to make drastic changes. Great. And now for reality.

Other than that, very substantive.

Well, I read that and mentally compare it to Carl's approach, Mr. DeezNutz. I am confident that Pioli actually has the ability to take advantage of opportunities as the draft approaches, whereas I had no (zero, ziltch, nada, Zombie brains) confidence in Carl to do more than make bad picks (as our draft history over the last 20 years attests).

To me, it's very heartening. (But don't tell Zombo I said that.)

FAX

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Well, I think his point is that it just so happens that New England holds the #23 pick. Could there be something to the Cassel rumor or whatever

Ah. Excuse me.

I'm so wrapped up in the Zombie files that I might have missed the boat. Many apologies.

I will lower my bullshit ranking from 100% to, oh..., 98%.

He's not going to keep a lock down at 1 Arrowhead and then make that type of tell.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Like I care. The wrath of internet losers

Ooooooooh.
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Don't say I didn't warn you.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by FAX

Well, I read that and mentally compare it to Carl's approach, Mr. DeezNutz. I am confident that Pioli actually has the ability to take advantage of opportunities as the draft approaches, whereas I had no (zero, ziltch, nada, Zombie brains) confidence in Carl to do more than make bad picks (as our draft history over the last 20 years attests).

To me, it's very heartening. (But don't tell Zombo I said that.)

FAX

I don't disagree with this.

I think he's going to be open minded and pragmatic, and I believe that Pioli, unlike Carl in recent years, has a definitive vision for this organization.