NFL Draft If Curry is gone at the 3 spot...who do we take or what do we do?

HC_Chief · 03-01-2009, 02:27 PM

So if we stay at #3, don't trade down, as the roster stands today, the "studious draft experts" would take Raji?

And what do we do w/ Dorsey? Chuck him in the garbage? Seems to me we're doing worse with him than what you're bemoaning wrt Albert.

ChiefsCountry · 03-01-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

So if we stay at #3, don't trade down, as the roster stands today, the "studious draft experts" would take Raji?

And what do we do w/ Dorsey? Chuck him in the garbage? Seems to me we're doing worse with him than what you're bemoaning wrt Albert.

Dorsey becomes a right end in 3-4 with Raji as the nose tackle.

HC_Chief · 03-01-2009, 02:31 PM

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Dorsey becomes a right end in 3-4 with Raji as the nose tackle.

So the odd man out then becomes? Hali? Tyler? McBride?

Again, we're chucking one of our high DL drafts.

milkman · 03-01-2009, 06:40 PM

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So the odd man out then becomes? Hali? Tyler? McBride?

Again, we're chucking one of our high DL drafts.

The only high draft pick really worth a damn that we'd be chucking is Dorsey.

Hali is just a body

Tyler has the frame to add weight and be a contributor as a NT to spell whoever we pick up to start there, IMO, and McBride can play DE in 34.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-01-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

So if we stay at #3, don't trade down, as the roster stands today, the "studious draft experts" would take Raji?

And what do we do w/ Dorsey? Chuck him in the garbage? Seems to me we're doing worse with him than what you're bemoaning wrt Albert.

Why the hell do you think I was so pissed about moving to a 3-4?

HC_Chief · 03-01-2009, 02:32 PM

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Why the hell do you think I was so pissed about moving to a 3-4?

Oh, I agree.... also why I see the logic in Monroe. Albert can play all along the OL.

Not that I want that to happen, but I can definitely see it as a possibility, w/ Dorsey or Tyler moved to NT.

On top of that, our LB corps SUCKS. Vrabel is a great 2-year stopgap & player coach, but other than him we have a lot of ?? / holes to fill, especially in a 3-4.

milkman · 03-01-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

So if we stay at #3, don't trade down, as the roster stands today, the "studious draft experts" would take Raji?

And what do we do w/ Dorsey? Chuck him in the garbage? Seems to me we're doing worse with him than what you're bemoaning wrt Albert.

The difference is that Albert doesn't become virtually worthless in a new scheme.

Dorsey, in a switch to a 34, doesn't have a position.

He's a smallish DT, whose athleticism and quicks should be used to shoot gaps, get penetration in the backfield and disrupt plays.

He doesn't have the size to be a space eater in the middle of a 34 to take on double teams and keep LBs clean to make plays.

He also doesn't have the ideal size (read short) to be a DE in a 34, though that is where he will probably be moved.

HC_Chief · 03-01-2009, 06:39 PM

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The difference is that Albert doesn't become virtually worthless in a new scheme.

Dorsey, in a switch to a 34, doesn't have a position.

He's a smallish DT, whose athleticism and quicks should be used to shoot gaps, get penetration in the backfield and disrupt plays.

He doesn't have the size to be a space eater in the middle of a 34 to take on double teams and keep LBs clean to make plays.

He also doesn't have the ideal size (read short) to be a DE in a 34, though that is where he will probably be moved.

Albert at RT = worthless? Really?

I had not realized the right side of the OL was so insignificant. thanks for the update!

ChiefsCountry · 03-01-2009, 06:40 PM

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Albert at RT = worthless? Really?

Pretty freaking stupid is what it is.

HC_Chief · 03-01-2009, 06:42 PM

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Pretty freaking stupid is what it is.

Mmm hmm, so much dumber than dumping the #5 overall pick last season. Yeah, sure. Thanks for your input. No, seriously, it made us all the smarter for having read it.

ChiefsCountry · 03-01-2009, 06:44 PM

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Mmm hmm, so much dumber than dumping the #5 overall pick last season. Yeah, sure. Thanks for your input. No, seriously, it made us all the smarter for having read it.

I never wanted to dump Dorsey. Its Pioli and the Parcells gang that has a raging hard on for the shitty 3-4.

milkman · 03-01-2009, 06:49 PM

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I never wanted to dump Dorsey. Its Pioli and the Parcells gang that has a raging hard on for the shitty 3-4.

Who is the Pioli and Parcells gang?

Are you referring to the Chiefs new brass or a group on the board?

chiefzilla1501 · 03-01-2009, 07:03 PM

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I never wanted to dump Dorsey. Its Pioli and the Parcells gang that has a raging hard on for the shitty 3-4.

Why is it shitty? Almost every team that runs it is a top 10 defense.

What's dumber is refusing to change your scheme when there is only one key player on your roster who doesn't fit into it. The Chiefs are practically at square 1 on defense. If there was ever a time in their history to consider moving to a 3-4, last year would have been perfect, but this year is just as good. I like Dorsey, but sorry, a 3-4 defense is a ton easier to build than a 4-3 and it will be worth sacrificing that #5 pick that was wasted, assuming that he doesn't find a role in this defense.

milkman · 03-01-2009, 06:47 PM

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Albert at RT = worthless? Really?

I had not realized the right side of the OL was so insignificant. thanks for the update!

I didn't say that.

Albert's value doesn't diminish as LT if we switch schemes.

Of course you knew that's exactly what I mean't.
You just wanted to play dumbass.

HC_Chief · 03-01-2009, 06:56 PM

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I didn't say that.

Albert's value doesn't diminish as LT if we switch schemes.

Of course you knew that's exactly what I mean't.
You just wanted to play dumbass.

Again, how does Albert's "value diminish" in a move to RT? He is not a "natural LT"; he played multiple positions in college. Why do you think he would be incapable of playing RT?

He did pretty well last year at LT. If he stays there, great... but I have little doubt he would do just as well at the right tackle position, allowing KC to draft a LT and bookend their OL for a decade.

The caveat is they are stuck at #3. Drop down, and forget drafting the LT; go LB or DE/OLB.

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