NFL Draft If Curry is gone at the 3 spot...who do we take or what do we do? - Page 16

journeyscarab · 02-28-2009, 11:07 PM

Say the Lions draft Curry, Rams draft Smith....do we take Monroe/Orakpo/or drop a few spots to get someone else?

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-01-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

The last decade of top 5 DT's include guys like Dorsey, Dewayne Robertson, Gerard Warren, Darrell Russell.

Yeah, because he died in his prime

Mr. Krab · 03-01-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Orakpo would be the choice at #3.

And oh, the waiiilllllinngggggg......

Every time i saw Orakpo play, he pretty much disappeared.

bdeg · 03-01-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

Every time i saw Orakpo play, he pretty much disappeared.

Just wait til you see him in the NFL.

**SAUTO** · 03-01-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

Just wait til you see him in the NFL.

or not(because he disappeared)

bdeg · 03-01-2009, 06:29 PM

haha I was going to add "if he makes the field" but must have forgot.

HC_Chief · 03-01-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

I don't know think you can go by that... You just have to trust your scouting department to get the best guy in the class, ya know?

Yes I agree trading down is the best option, but you can't count on that. I don't think anyone i going to want the pick. If it happens great, if not it's either Raji or Brown. Neither one is perfect at this spot, we'll see what happens.

Both are necessary components IF we do indeed switch to the 3-4. Most prospect rankings have these guys as second or third options at their position. The key you guys seems to have picked up on is how they are projected to play in a 3-4. Both are projected to do their best in that scheme. Again, third or fourth best at their position.... draft either one at #3 overall and heads will turn. Expect a lot of shitty draft grades.

Grades be damned. If it works best & it is what our new FO/braintrust thinks is best, so be it. So far, so good as their performance has gone thus far.

Chiefnj2 · 03-01-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

They put Levi Brown on the right side on purpose because Leinart is left-handed,therefore his blindside is the right.

How many teams move their LOT to ROT when a lefty QB comes in?

milkman · 03-01-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

So if we stay at #3, don't trade down, as the roster stands today, the "studious draft experts" would take Raji?

And what do we do w/ Dorsey? Chuck him in the garbage? Seems to me we're doing worse with him than what you're bemoaning wrt Albert.

The difference is that Albert doesn't become virtually worthless in a new scheme.

Dorsey, in a switch to a 34, doesn't have a position.

He's a smallish DT, whose athleticism and quicks should be used to shoot gaps, get penetration in the backfield and disrupt plays.

He doesn't have the size to be a space eater in the middle of a 34 to take on double teams and keep LBs clean to make plays.

He also doesn't have the ideal size (read short) to be a DE in a 34, though that is where he will probably be moved.

HC_Chief · 03-01-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The difference is that Albert doesn't become virtually worthless in a new scheme.

Dorsey, in a switch to a 34, doesn't have a position.

He's a smallish DT, whose athleticism and quicks should be used to shoot gaps, get penetration in the backfield and disrupt plays.

He doesn't have the size to be a space eater in the middle of a 34 to take on double teams and keep LBs clean to make plays.

He also doesn't have the ideal size (read short) to be a DE in a 34, though that is where he will probably be moved.

Albert at RT = worthless? Really?

I had not realized the right side of the OL was so insignificant. thanks for the update!

ChiefsCountry · 03-01-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Albert at RT = worthless? Really?

Pretty freaking stupid is what it is.

milkman · 03-01-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

So the odd man out then becomes? Hali? Tyler? McBride?

Again, we're chucking one of our high DL drafts.

The only high draft pick really worth a damn that we'd be chucking is Dorsey.

Hali is just a body

Tyler has the frame to add weight and be a contributor as a NT to spell whoever we pick up to start there, IMO, and McBride can play DE in 34.

HC_Chief · 03-01-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Pretty freaking stupid is what it is.

Mmm hmm, so much dumber than dumping the #5 overall pick last season. Yeah, sure. Thanks for your input. No, seriously, it made us all the smarter for having read it.

ChiefsCountry · 03-01-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Mmm hmm, so much dumber than dumping the #5 overall pick last season. Yeah, sure. Thanks for your input. No, seriously, it made us all the smarter for having read it.

I never wanted to dump Dorsey. Its Pioli and the Parcells gang that has a raging hard on for the shitty 3-4.

milkman · 03-01-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Albert at RT = worthless? Really?

I had not realized the right side of the OL was so insignificant. thanks for the update!

I didn't say that.

Albert's value doesn't diminish as LT if we switch schemes.

Of course you knew that's exactly what I mean't.
You just wanted to play dumbass.

Mr. Krab · 03-01-2009, 06:48 PM

I still the Dorsey can be productive as a RDE in a 3-4 because the OLB will lineup outside and push him inside, as if he was a 3 technique in a 4-3.

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