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Old 03-03-2009, 07:35 AM  
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Who thinks Cassel is the next Len Dawson?

I read in Gretz's column this morning that the Chiefs are trying to prevent all the fans from thinking that Cassel is the second coming of Len Dawson. He went on to say that it was impossible, because Chiefs fans already think that.

I am wondering who? Who really thinks that? I like the move because it gives us a good prospect for a second round pick. I like the move because I feel like Cassel is at the very least, a John Kitna type QB who can manage the game. That is a nice 'starting' point. It solidifies the position. They aren't under any pressure to draft a guy early to try to 'solve' a problem. Now, they can draft guys late at the QB position in hopes of developing them down the road.

I don't even look at Cassel as the absolute starter on opening day. Yes, I think it is likely that happens. However, if Thigpen takes a big step forward, and Cassel doesn't look great, then Thigpen 'could' be the guy.

In other words, I don't think that Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I 'hope' Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I think Cassel is still ascending in his career.

Heck, I hope that Cassel is the next Trent Green. Seriously, if Cassel can be as effective in this system as Green was in Saunder's system... then the Chiefs made a great move. Especially considering that Cassel would be able to play for a decade here, or nearly twice as long as Trent Green.

Anyways, I don't get the sense that the Chiefs fans think this guy is the next Len Dawson. Am I wrong? Do you think he is the next Len Dawson?
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:02 AM   #31
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:05 AM   #32
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I read in Gretz's column this morning that the Chiefs are trying to prevent all the fans from thinking that Cassel is the second coming of Len Dawson. He went on to say that it was impossible, because Chiefs fans already think that.

I am wondering who? Who really thinks that? I like the move because it gives us a good prospect for a second round pick. I like the move because I feel like Cassel is at the very least, a John Kitna type QB who can manage the game. That is a nice 'starting' point. It solidifies the position. They aren't under any pressure to draft a guy early to try to 'solve' a problem. Now, they can draft guys late at the QB position in hopes of developing them down the road.

I don't even look at Cassel as the absolute starter on opening day. Yes, I think it is likely that happens. However, if Thigpen takes a big step forward, and Cassel doesn't look great, then Thigpen 'could' be the guy.

In other words, I don't think that Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I 'hope' Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I think Cassel is still ascending in his career.

Heck, I hope that Cassel is the next Trent Green. Seriously, if Cassel can be as effective in this system as Green was in Saunder's system... then the Chiefs made a great move. Especially considering that Cassel would be able to play for a decade here, or nearly twice as long as Trent Green.

Anyways, I don't get the sense that the Chiefs fans think this guy is the next Len Dawson. Am I wrong? Do you think he is the next Len Dawson?
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:07 AM   #33
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:11 AM   #34
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So anyone thinking that Cassel is the next Len Dawson is saying that he is a Hall of Famer, that is a little bit unreasonable expectation. How bout lets start by getting something we havent gotten in 16 years and thats a playoff win.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:13 AM   #35
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Has the potential to be maybe Trent Green. There will never be another person like Lenny Dawson to the Chiefs. I hope Cassel is able to begin his own Chiefs legacy.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:14 AM   #36
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:15 AM   #37
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The next Len Dawson will have to come by at some point. Why not now.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:21 AM   #38
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Hey, at this point I'll be happy as long as he's not the next Scott Mitchell.

Well, err...not really.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:26 AM   #39
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I think either him or Thigpen can be. Thigpen would have had a MUCH better season last year had we put out an actual defense.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:34 AM   #40
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Hey, at this point I'll be happy as long as he's not the next Scott Mitchell.

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Old 03-03-2009, 09:40 AM   #41
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Based on his one year as a starter I think Cassel is good enough to be a systems QB that can get KC into the playoffs and win a game or two.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:46 AM   #42
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Lets not jump off the deep end here. I don't want Cassell to be the 2nd coming of Len Dawson. I just want him to be himself, and first help lead the Chiefs back to the playoffs. That should be our first concern. Once there, then we can worry about him leading the Chiefs to the promiseland of the Superbowl.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:54 AM   #43
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A better thread would've been, "Who thinks LJ is the next OJ?"

Cassel has a lot to prove before he can be compared to any Hall of Famer.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:57 AM   #44
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:01 AM   #45
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A better thread would've been, "Who thinks LJ is the next OJ?"

Cassel has a lot to prove before he can be compared to any Hall of Famer.
I am much closer to believing that LJ would kill his exwife than Cassel would be a Hall of Famer.

With LJ's history of domestic abuse, it isn't much of a leap.
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