I think all the 3-4 talk is hooey.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Wow. Underrated?

Hardly. The guy ****ing sucks and was a terrible first-round selection. You want something more than a rotational player at this draft slot.

He led the team in sacks two years ago. He had eight sacks the year before last.

He struggled last year. Why? Well, I think there were a ton of reasons. #1) He switched positions. #2) He was injured a good part of the year and didn't take time off to let it heal like he should have. #3) The Chiefs didn't have a threat on the other side at all and the QB could just roll away from him.

Hali isn't Jared Allen. He isn't a Hall of Famer. But, he is a legit starter on most teams in the NFL.

Even if he doesn't fit here as an OLB, he will be a full time starter at DE here or somewhere else.

I think you are misguided about Hali.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

He led the team in sacks two years ago. He had eight sacks the year before last.

He struggled last year. Why? Well, I think there were a ton of reasons. #1) He switched positions. #2) He was injured a good part of the year and didn't take time off to let it heal like he should have. #3) The Chiefs didn't have a threat on the other side at all and the QB could just roll away from him.

Hali isn't Jared Allen. He isn't a Hall of Famer. But, he is a legit starter on most teams in the NFL.

Even if he doesn't fit here as an OLB, he will be a full time starter at DE here or somewhere else.

I think you are misguided about Hali.

Thinking about playing Hali at OLB is suicidal. A colossal disaster waiting to happen.

1. I agree that Hali was out of position to begin the season. No question about this.
2. The quarterback rolling away from Hali had little to do with his lack of production. He was manhandled the entire season, no matter run or pass.
3. If he starts to look like an ascending player and we learn his struggles were indeed due to injury, I'll eat my appropriate serving of crow. I won't be hard to find and I won't dodge the abuse.

I think Hali struggles because he lacks the necessary explosion, overall speed, strength, etc. In short, he's a max-effort guy who lacks the type of elite athleticism necessary to be an impact player.

I give him credit for being an NFL player, just not one you'd be happy having drafted in round 1.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Thinking about playing Hali at OLB is suicidal. A colossal disaster waiting to happen.

1. I agree that Hali was out of position to begin the season. No question about this.
2. The quarterback rolling away from Hali had little to do with his lack of production. He was manhandled the entire season, no matter run or pass.
3. If he starts to look like an ascending player and we learn his struggles were indeed due to injury, I'll eat my appropriate serving of crow. I won't be hard to find and I won't dodge the abuse.

I think Hali struggles because he lacks the necessary explosion, overall speed, strength, etc. In short, he's a max-effort guy who lacks the type of elite athleticism necessary to be an impact player.

I give him credit for being an NFL player, just not one you'd be happy having drafted in round 1.

Well, I have went on record as saying that Hali will be a good player as an OLB in the 3-4.

I will have to take far more abuse than you if I am wrong, because I am clearly in the minority on here about my assessment of Hali.

I am okay with that. It makes it fun. I don't like to just go along with the crowd. I like to post stuff that I think that is contrary to the crowd.

So, that obviously leaves me open for criticism when I am wrong. And, of course I will be wrong... who isn't?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I like to post stuff that I think that is contrary to the crowd.

Yes, even when it means ignoring common ****ing sense.

You aren't "sensiblechiefsfan." You're "reerunedchiefsfan."

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Claythan

Yes, even when it means ignoring common ****ing sense.

You aren't "sensiblechiefsfan." You're "reerunedchiefsfan."

My goodness, you didn't even know that Gailey was in line to be OC in Denver before the Chiefs scooped him up. I don't exactly consider you 'informed'.


The funny part is that you feel it necessary to take shots. Why? Do you think you can intimidate me from my opion by lobbing insults my way?

Keep flaming me, it isn't going to change my opinion.

Could I be wrong? Absolutely. I have been before, and I will be again. I call it like I see it. Time will tell who is right.

I just don't think the talent 'sucks' as much as most on this board does.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I don't exactly consider you 'informed'.

I don't exactly consider you "sane."

You going to take my bet or not?

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Claythan

I don't exactly consider you "sane."

You going to take my bet or not?

I already responded.

I don't consider you to be anything but a whiny a$$ed pencil necked geek.

I am not going to say I am always right, but I have a feeling that my opinion is based on far more real life experience.

Frankly, I find your opinion on football to be as credible as any tips on sex you might want to post. I am pretty sure I have far more experience and skill in both areas.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Well, I have went on record as saying that Hali will be a good player as an OLB in the 3-4.

I will have to take far more abuse than you if I am wrong, because I am clearly in the minority on here about my assessment of Hali.

I am okay with that. It makes it fun. I don't like to just go along with the crowd. I like to post stuff that I think that is contrary to the crowd.

So, that obviously leaves me open for criticism when I am wrong. And, of course I will be wrong... who isn't?

You take a lot of shit, and I give you credit for sticking to your opinions (no matter how "insensible" I might think them ).