Chiefs Chiefs sign Zach Thomas - Page 20

phisherman · 04-11-2009, 08:07 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/news/break...y/1137526.html

The Chiefs have agreed to terms with linebacker Zach Thomas.

Thomas, 35, is a 13-year veteran who started 14 games for the Dallas Cowboys last season and has made 20.5 career sacks. He spent the first 12 years of his career with the Miami Dolphins.

htismaqe · 04-13-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree

You really haven't paid complete attention to things I've posted or you'd know that's not true. I've discussed taking more then just Curry in the first round. I've argued Curry way to much but it's because IMO the aruments against him are not that good. The people who argue against Curry don't really seem to consider the other players in this draft and how their skills compare to Curry or how they do or don't equate to the #3 pick in the draft. And in the end "if"(and I have no idae what he will do) Pioli is thinking about drafting Curry the signing of Thomas means absolutely nothing.

PhilFree

What's funny is the only reason I find myself on the OTHER side of the argument is because the arguments AGAINST Curry are iron-clad. Rock solid. People that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

htismaqe · 04-13-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

I disagree.

I'd assume if we drafted Curry that it would probably be Thomas and usually Curry/sometimes DJ on 1st, 2nd down, and Curry+DJ at ILB on 3rd down. DJ might see a little time at OLB, too.

Just like Vrabel, Thomas is not a long-term solution, but a leader, role-model, and stopgap.

We could use Taylor, but I'd rather get a draft pick in there opposite Vrabel. We really need a passrusher though, contrary to popular belief Vrabel does not fill that need.

At this point, so is Cassel. Everybody seems to conveniently ignore that HE DOESN'T HAVE A CONTRACT.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-13-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

At this point, so is Cassel. Everybody seems to conveniently ignore that HE DOESN'T HAVE A CONTRACT.

Little trouble in paradise this morning too if I'm correct, yes?

Rooster · 04-13-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

At this point, so is Cassel. Everybody seems to conveniently ignore that HE DOESN'T HAVE A CONTRACT.

I'm all for making him prove himself again before he gets an extended contract. It's a smart move by the Chiefs IMO.

philfree · 04-13-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

What's funny is the only reason I find myself on the OTHER side of the argument is because the arguments AGAINST Curry are iron-clad. Rock solid. People that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Just exactly what history is it I'm about to repeat?

PhilFree

Brock · 04-13-2009, 01:12 PM

I sure don't agree with doing this kind of stuff. I hope these guys really do know what they're doing, instead of just appearing to.

Archie Bunker · 04-13-2009, 01:14 PM

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0...over-Jets.html

Agent: Zach Thomas chooses Chiefs over Jets

April 13, 2009 8:30 AM

Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham

Jason Taylor reaffirmed his aversion to the New York Jets last week.

But his brother-in-law and former longtime Miami Dolphins teammate apparently had no problem switching allegiances.

Zach Thomas was in talks to join the Jets before he finally settled on the Kansas City Chiefs for a one-year contract, agent Drew Rosenhaus told Fox affiliate WSVN in Miami.

"We had been talking to the Jets as well, and we had the option of waiting even until after the draft or before training camp," Rosenhaus said. "But the truth of the matter is Zach was excited about the chance."

Thomas, like Taylor, spent last season in the NFC East after more than a decade as a fixture on the Dolphins' defense. They combined for 13 Pro Bowls while playing together.

Taylor last year was traded to the Washington Redskins, who cut him last month. Thomas was released and signed with the Dallas Cowboys, who didn't want him back.

Taylor is waiting to sign. He probably won't have a new employer until after the NFL draft in two weeks, but it almost certainly won't be the Jets based on what he had to say last week.

"It'd be very, very, very difficult. Very difficult," Taylor said at a youth football camp. "But at the end of the day, if you can't find a job anywhere else and the Jets call, I guess you've got to retire or go play.

"The Jets are the Jets. I've had a lot of history saying bad things about Jets fans. The fireman hat guy [Fireman Ed], and all of the people in New York that are Jets fans are not the ones that are working on Wall Street. I've said all of those things. So I've got to leave it at that."

Taylor would appear to have more attractive options than his wife's brother did. Taylor could land with the New England Patriots, a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

The Chiefs went 2-14 last year, but Rosenhaus ticked off a number of reasons Thomas was interested: new general manager Scott Pioli, new head coach Todd Haley, new quarterback Matt Cassel and the fact Thomas likely will be the starter.

"Zach really likes the opportunity in that defense," Rosenhaus said. "They play a 3-4. He's going to get a chance to start inside. He's going to be 36 years old in September. To have an opportunity to start for a quality franchise, you can't turn that own."

**ShortRoundChief** · 04-13-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

At this point, so is Cassel. Everybody seems to conveniently ignore that HE DOESN'T HAVE A CONTRACT.

He's our franchise player right?

That also means if he gets hurt or sucks we won't owe him anything in the future.

htismaqe · 04-13-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

He's our franchise player right?

That also means if he gets hurt or sucks we won't owe him anything in the future.

Exactly. It's all about possibilities.

And it's not me that's not acknowledging them.

htismaqe · 04-13-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Just exactly what history is it I'm about to repeat?

PhilFree

Name the last non-pass rushing LB that went in the top 5 and how was their career...

**Rausch** · 04-13-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I sure don't agree with doing this kind of stuff. I hope these guys really do know what they're doing, instead of just appearing to.

If we're depending on Thomas to start I don't like it. If he's solid, vet depth I like the move.

This team has very little vet leadership.

Just Passin' By · 04-13-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Name the last non-pass rushing LB that went in the top 5 and how was their career...

AJ Hawk..... linebackers in the top 5 are rare, pass rushing or not.

htismaqe · 04-13-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

AJ Hawk..... linebackers in the top 5 are rare, pass rushing or not.

Do you want AJ Hawk with the #3 overall pick?

I sure as hell don't.

Just Passin' By · 04-13-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Do you want AJ Hawk with the #3 overall pick?

I sure as hell don't.

That's a different question. Hawk is the only top 5 linebacker taken since Arrington in 2000. However, this is a terrible year to have a top 5 pick, because this year the players available at 10-20 are going to be just as good as those available at 1-10, with the possible exception of the left tackles. Just looking at linebackers, Gholston, Rivers and Mayo would all be possible top 5 picks if they were in this year's draft instead of last year. Heck, Gholston went at 6 last year.

ChiefsCountry · 04-13-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

That's a different question. Hawk is the only top 5 linebacker taken since Arrington in 2000. However, this is a terrible year to have a top 5 pick, because this year the players available at 10-20 are going to be just as good as those available at 1-10, with the possible exception of the left tackles. Just looking at linebackers, Gholston, Rivers and Mayo would all be possible top 5 picks if they were in this year's draft instead of last year. Heck, Gholston went at 6 last year.

Gholston is a passrusher that warrants top 5.

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Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $-701022	http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0...over-Jets.html Agent: Zach Thomas chooses Chiefs over Jets April 13, 2009 8:30 AM Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham Jason Taylor reaffirmed his aversion to the New York Jets last week. But his brother-in-law and former longtime Miami Dolphins teammate apparently had no problem switching allegiances. Zach Thomas was in talks to join the Jets before he finally settled on the Kansas City Chiefs for a one-year contract, agent Drew Rosenhaus told Fox affiliate WSVN in Miami. "We had been talking to the Jets as well, and we had the option of waiting even until after the draft or before training camp," Rosenhaus said. "But the truth of the matter is Zach was excited about the chance." Thomas, like Taylor, spent last season in the NFC East after more than a decade as a fixture on the Dolphins' defense. They combined for 13 Pro Bowls while playing together. Taylor last year was traded to the Washington Redskins, who cut him last month. Thomas was released and signed with the Dallas Cowboys, who didn't want him back. Taylor is waiting to sign. He probably won't have a new employer until after the NFL draft in two weeks, but it almost certainly won't be the Jets based on what he had to say last week. "It'd be very, very, very difficult. Very difficult," Taylor said at a youth football camp. "But at the end of the day, if you can't find a job anywhere else and the Jets call, I guess you've got to retire or go play. "The Jets are the Jets. I've had a lot of history saying bad things about Jets fans. The fireman hat guy [Fireman Ed], and all of the people in New York that are Jets fans are not the ones that are working on Wall Street. I've said all of those things. So I've got to leave it at that." Taylor would appear to have more attractive options than his wife's brother did. Taylor could land with the New England Patriots, a legitimate Super Bowl contender. The Chiefs went 2-14 last year, but Rosenhaus ticked off a number of reasons Thomas was interested: new general manager Scott Pioli, new head coach Todd Haley, new quarterback Matt Cassel and the fact Thomas likely will be the starter. "Zach really likes the opportunity in that defense," Rosenhaus said. "They play a 3-4. He's going to get a chance to start inside. He's going to be 36 years old in September. To have an opportunity to start for a quality franchise, you can't turn that own."
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