Broncos' Draft

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Moreno is talented, but taking a RB at #12 is a hard pill to swallow.

The next two picks are pretty bad.

What do you expect.

The head coach is retarted!

Duh! Lets see..... we only have 9 running backs.....duuhhhh.......I know ..lets draft a running back.....duuhhhhhhhh! Orton!

[patteeu]

Taking a RB at 12 seems like the kind of thing you ought to do when he's one of your last pieces of the puzzle, not when you're desperate for defense. Surely one of the stable of guys you signed during the offseason would have been enough to cover up your QB deficiency.

As a Chiefs fan, I'm thrilled by the Broncos draft.

[patteeu]

One of the guys on the radio today, I can't remember who and I can't remember whether it was a local host or a national guest, said something that rang pretty true to me about Denver's draft. He suggested that their actions had the smell of "win now" and he thought it was because McDaniels has already created such a mess with the fanbase and the owner that if he doesn't win early he won't last as head coach very long (maybe even just one year). Picking a RB at 12 and trading next year's 1st for a 2nd this year both seem to fit that "win now" analysis.

[orange]

Originally Posted by patteeu

One of the guys on the radio today, I can't remember who and I can't remember whether it was a local host or a national guest, said something that rang pretty true to me about Denver's draft. He suggested that their actions had the smell of "win now" and he thought it was because McDaniels has already created such a mess with the fanbase and the owner that if he doesn't win early he won't last as head coach very long (maybe even just one year). Picking a RB at 12 and trading next year's 1st for a 2nd this year both seem to fit that "win now" analysis.

They started the year with Cutler - now they don't have him. Why not use all the picks they got for him NOW just to get back as close as they can to where they started?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by orange

They started the year with Cutler - now they don't have him. Why not use all the picks they got for him NOW just to get back as close as they can to where they started?

Would you have been happier, less happy, or the same degree of happiness if the Cutler trade had returned a 2009 2nd rounder instead of the 2010 1st rounder? I'm more interested in the 1st rounder unless I expect the team who originally held it is going to be really good, which brings me to the other aspect of the Bronco's draft day trade...

Unless I'm mistaken, the Broncos traded their own 2010 first rather than the 2010 first acquired from Chicago. My expectation is that the Broncos are going to be worse than Chicago next year so IMO they gave up their best 2010 pick. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Denver ends up with a top 10 drafting position. If so, that would be a big price to pay for that CB. The flip side, of course, is that this seems to indicate some degree of confidence on the part of the Denver brain trust that the team will be good enough in the upcoming season to end up with later draft position thereby reducing the ultimate cost of the transaction. Time will tell.

[orange]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Would you have been happier, less happy, or the same degree of happiness if the Cutler trade had returned a 2009 2nd rounder instead of the 2010 1st rounder? I'm more interested in the 1st rounder unless I expect the team who originally held it is going to be really good, which brings me to the other aspect of the Bronco's draft day trade...

Unless I'm mistaken, the Broncos traded their own 2010 first rather than the 2010 first acquired from Chicago. My expectation is that the Broncos are going to be worse than Chicago next year so IMO they gave up their best 2010 pick. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Denver ends up with a top 10 drafting position. If so, that would be a big price to pay for that CB. The flip side, of course, is that this seems to indicate some degree of confidence on the part of the Denver brain trust that the team will be good enough in the upcoming season to end up with later draft position thereby reducing the ultimate cost of the transaction. Time will tell.

I always considered that trade as a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. I actually do value future picks one level down (you can have a look at a thread by Rain Man last Friday where we discussed this at length http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...=206430&page=3). This trade didn't shock me at all. I was surprised by the pick - I expected Brace at that point.

As for missing a possible top 10 pick - I don't think it will happen, but even if it does - THAT'S A GOOD THING. High draft picks have become a curse, not a blessing. Look at this year - the Chiefs are going to have to pay franchise-QB money to a DE expected to be drafted at 12 because they couldn't move the pick. San Francisco's GM was quoted last week as saying he'd been contacted by 7 of the 9 teams picking before him that wanted to trade down.

No big loss if you ask me.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by patteeu

One of the guys on the radio today, I can't remember who and I can't remember whether it was a local host or a national guest, said something that rang pretty true to me about Denver's draft. He suggested that their actions had the smell of "win now" and he thought it was because McDaniels has already created such a mess with the fanbase and the owner that if he doesn't win early he won't last as head coach very long (maybe even just one year). Picking a RB at 12 and trading next year's 1st for a 2nd this year both seem to fit that "win now" analysis.

I can see a lot of truth in this.