According to NFLN KC has had 3 of the top

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Does Dick Vermeil have the power to spend hours a day scouting college talent? Is he the coach ever the loudest voice in the room on draft day?

To the first point, it's not Vermeil's job to scout and recruit drafted players or free agents. The Chiefs have a whole personnel department that gets paid to specialize in that. To blame Vermeil for something that wasn't in his job description is ridiculous. It's not Vermeil's fault they botched so many drafts. Before you blame Vermeil, you HAVE to blame Peterson (whose hardball tactics kept the cream-of-the-crop out of Kansas City), and then you blame guys like Chuck Cook and especially Lynn Stiles.

To the second point, yes Vermeil screamed for guys like Ryan Sims, but that's the personnel department's job to cross-check to make sure he's got the facts straight. They didn't do nearly enough due diligence. I read a report that said that Lynn Stiles' method of scouting top players was to watch tape, instead of actual workouts, and then ask for recommendations from some of his buddies. That's why we got swindled into taking Sims.

Regardless of any of the crap you're spewing here, the fact remains that Carl gave his coaches a large voice in the draft room.

The responsibility for the failures of the Chiefs in Carl's 20 years start with Carl, but that doesn't absolve the ****heads he hired to coach this team of any responsibility.