Chiefs Top 10: Regrettable NFL Offseason Decisions

oaklandhater · 08-26-2009, 04:44 PM

The reason Cassle is number 1 on that list is becuase if he fail's Scott Pioli wold literally have set the chiefs franchise back 5-10 years.

DBOSHO · 08-26-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

The reason Cassle is number 1 on that list is becuase if he fail's Scott Pioli wold literally have set the chiefs franchise back 5-10 years.

imo, i disagree with that. if cassel is terrible, we have 2 capable backups who have started before and have experience and are young.

and you have to consider we will probably pick in the top 10 again and there are some pretty good qbs in the draft. bradford, mccoy, snead...and i cant think of anyone who usually picks that low that needs a qb.

the raiders have fatmarcus. davis isnt smart enough to go with another qb if he fails. the lions just got stafford. jets have sanchez. maybe the rams, but i think they have other positons of need to fill.

if cassel does fail and we get a qb that would only be a 2-3 year setback imo. but i believe that cassel is the man and we will go oline or wr next yr

Mecca · 08-26-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

imo, i disagree with that. if cassel is terrible, we have 2 capable backups who have started before and have experience and are young.

and you have to consider we will probably pick in the top 10 again and there are some pretty good qbs in the draft. bradford, mccoy, snead...and i cant think of anyone who usually picks that low that needs a qb.

the raiders have fatmarcus. davis isnt smart enough to go with another qb if he fails. the lions just got stafford. jets have sanchez. maybe the rams, but i think they have other positons of need to fill.

if cassel does fail and we get a qb that would only be a 2-3 year setback imo. but i believe that cassel is the man and we will go oline or wr next yr

I disagree with this...those 2 backups are not capable of starting on a winning team.

I also really don't like that QB class a bunch of spread monkeys.

TFG · 08-26-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

The reason Cassle is number 1 on that list is becuase if he fail's Scott Pioli wold literally have set the chiefs franchise back 5-10 years.

What if the real truth is that Cassell "fails" because the OL cannot protect him???

Where does the blame go there?

To Pioli, who should have realized his new team lacked jack @@@@ at OL and should have DONE SOMETHING about that, more than a fifth on Colin Brown, a small UFA contract to ancient Goff, and lucking out with tryout player Darryl Harris.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-26-2009, 06:36 PM

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What if the real truth is that Cassell "fails" because the OL cannot protect him???

Sorry, but that's not an excuse.

Ben Roethlisberger won a ****ing Super Bowl behind a TERRIBLE offensive line last year.

And Cassel himself was successful last year getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-26-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sorry, but that's not an excuse.

Ben Roethlisberger won a ****ing Super Bowl behind a TERRIBLE offensive line last year.

And Cassel himself was successful last year getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

Are you really downgrading Cassel because he's not Big Ben? How many players are?

Big Ben survived a horrible offensive line because he's enormous and impossible to bring down. He's one of very few starting QBs that can do that.

An offensive line is a very valid excuse for a QB to not perform well. Over time, the good QBs can learn to develop a quick release like Brady and Brees, but again, you're talking about the cream of the crop. The vast majority of QBs in the NFL are dependent on their offensive line to give at least mediocre protection.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-26-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Are you really downgrading Cassel because he's not Big Ben? How many players are?

Big Ben survived a horrible offensive line because he's enormous and impossible to bring down. He's one of very few starting QBs that can do that.

An offensive line is a very valid excuse for a QB to not perform well. Over time, the good QBs can learn to develop a quick release like Brady and Brees, but again, you're talking about the cream of the crop. The vast majority of QBs in the NFL are dependent on their offensive line to give at least mediocre protection.

I just complemented Cassel in that post.

Reading is fundamental.

But he's done it before, you can't have it both ways and credit him for being successful in NE then using it as a crutch in KC.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-26-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I just complemented Cassel in that post.

Reading is fundamental.

But he's done it before, you can't have it both ways and credit him for being successful in NE then using it as a crutch in KC.

I can because the offensive line he's going to be dealt in KC is a far shot worse than the Pats' o-line. And I've railed on Pioli for treating it like such a low priority.

It pisses me off that the line was ignored. I can only hope that Cassel can find a way to do well in spite of them.

donkhater · 08-26-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sorry, but that's not an excuse.

Ben Roethlisberger won a ****ing Super Bowl behind a TERRIBLE offensive line last year.

And Cassel himself was successful last year getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

The STEELERS won a super bowl with a terrific defense as well. Put last season's KC defense with the great big ben, and they don't make the playoffs.

veist · 08-26-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sorry, but that's not an excuse.

Ben Roethlisberger won a ****ing Super Bowl behind a TERRIBLE offensive line last year.

And Cassel himself was successful last year getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

And lets not forgot that the Cards line was not good either, heh. Didn't seem to keep Warner from lighting some D's up last year.

**SAUTO** · 08-27-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sorry, but that's not an excuse.

Ben Roethlisberger won a ****ing Super Bowl behind a TERRIBLE offensive line last year.

And Cassel himself was successful last year getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

wonder what the steerlers would have done last year had they had a top 5 defense

TFG · 08-27-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sorry, but that's not an excuse.

Ben Roethlisberger won a ****ing Super Bowl behind a TERRIBLE offensive line last year.

And Cassel himself was successful last year getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

Ben was "successful" solely because Ben was able to escape DL hits, hands, and arms in the pocket. The Cards should have had 12 sacks, but 6 or so would be "sacks" Ben got away and made big plays. The Steelers won despite their OL because they had a QB who could turn what would be a sack for 90% of NFL QBs into a big play. Cassel cannot do that. If you want to define the Pats season last year as a "success," be my guest. The only thing "successful" about Cassel for the Pats was that they were able to snake away a high Second for him from yet another really dumb franchise obsessed with acquiring anyone and everyone who ever stood next to Belichick. The current Chief obsession with becoming "Pats Light" should result in yet another top 10 Draft pick in April...

HC_Chief · 08-27-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TFG

Ben was "successful" solely because Ben was able to escape DL hits, hands, and arms in the pocket. The Cards should have had 12 sacks, but 6 or so would be "sacks" Ben got away and made big plays. The Steelers won despite their OL because they had a QB who could turn what would be a sack for 90% of NFL QBs into a big play.

Doesn't hurt that Roethlisberger is as big as many DEs. He's not exactly easy to tackle.

TFG · 08-27-2009, 08:21 AM

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Doesn't hurt that Roethlisberger is as big as many DEs. He's not exactly easy to tackle.

Nor did it hurt to have the NFL's #1 defense... and a supporting cast on offense of Hines, Turdio, Heath Miller etc...

beach tribe · 08-27-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TFG

Ben was "successful" solely because Ben was able to escape DL hits, hands, and arms in the pocket. The Cards should have had 12 sacks, but 6 or so would be "sacks" Ben got away and made big plays. The Steelers won despite their OL because they had a QB who could turn what would be a sack for 90% of NFL QBs into a big play. Cassel cannot do that. If you want to define the Pats season last year as a "success," be my guest. The only thing "successful" about Cassel for the Pats was that they were able to snake away a high Second for him from yet another really dumb franchise obsessed with acquiring anyone and everyone who ever stood next to Belichick. The current Chief obsession with becoming "Pats Light" should result in yet another top 10 Draft pick in April...

Cassel did exactly what you are talking about in this past PS game a against Minny. Hell it should have been a sack just about every time he dropped back to pass, but he escaped, and made some nice plays. Could you please stop
declaring him a huge mistake until he has had at least 8 games under center for us. Don't be as dumb as the guy writing this POS article.

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