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Old 08-26-2009, 02:11 PM  
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Top 10: Regrettable NFL Offseason Decisions

No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel

A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for.

Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law.

The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt.

He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon.

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html

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Old 08-26-2009, 04:34 PM   #76
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I'm sorry, but there is no ****ing way that trading for and overpaying a decent QB is dumber than offending a franchise QB with a full decade ahead of him to the point that you have to trade him and FAILING to acquire aforementioned decent QB in the process.
Kyle Orton is a FRANCHISE QB and that was the greatest move in league history...."KnowHomer2724"
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:35 PM   #77
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Kyle Orton is a FRANCHISE QB and that was the greatest move in league history...."KnowHomer2724"
no. how about sports HISTORY?
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:39 PM   #78
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The funny thing about this thread is that in 2 year's if cassle bust Gochiefs and sensiblechiefsfan
wont ever come back in here or post on the subject at all spineless homers.....
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:40 PM   #79
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:44 PM   #81
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The reason Cassle is number 1 on that list is becuase if he fail's Scott Pioli wold literally have set the chiefs franchise back 5-10 years.
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:51 PM   #82
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The reason Cassle is number 1 on that list is becuase if he fail's Scott Pioli wold literally have set the chiefs franchise back 5-10 years.
imo, i disagree with that. if cassel is terrible, we have 2 capable backups who have started before and have experience and are young.

and you have to consider we will probably pick in the top 10 again and there are some pretty good qbs in the draft. bradford, mccoy, snead...and i cant think of anyone who usually picks that low that needs a qb.

the raiders have fatmarcus. davis isnt smart enough to go with another qb if he fails. the lions just got stafford. jets have sanchez. maybe the rams, but i think they have other positons of need to fill.

if cassel does fail and we get a qb that would only be a 2-3 year setback imo. but i believe that cassel is the man and we will go oline or wr next yr
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:53 PM   #83
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The reason Cassle is number 1 on that list is becuase if he fail's Scott Pioli wold literally have set the chiefs franchise back 5-10 years.

What if the real truth is that Cassell "fails" because the OL cannot protect him???

Where does the blame go there?

To Pioli, who should have realized his new team lacked jack @@@@ at OL and should have DONE SOMETHING about that, more than a fifth on Colin Brown, a small UFA contract to ancient Goff, and lucking out with tryout player Darryl Harris.
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:56 PM   #84
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No he wouldn't. Three tops. Probably not even. Pioli set up Cassel's contract and front loaded the hell out of it. The first three years he makes bank, but it's best either way you slice it.

If he kicks ass, you still have him locked up on the cheap for another three years making more room to sign "impact players" to make a run. If he fails, you're really only hurt for three years before you can afford to take the cap hit.

Though, if we still have major cap space, and Cassel doesn't impress in his first two years, the Chiefs could draft a guy in the 2011 draft and if that guy is good enough to start as a rookie, there is really no reason he couldn't. We'd just being paying a lot for a backup for one year. Hell, even if, his contract would be small enough to keep as a backup, or trade for a pick.

Easily one of the best moves of the offseason. Cutler for Orton is FAR AND AWAY the worst.
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They got rid of him because they are ****ing geniuses.

Not only do they not have to pay him $15M to be a backup, they get a 2nd round pick to go with it.
More like they were very pragmatic, its simply the only option unless you think Brady isn't going to be Brady anymore. They are staring down some serious free agent issues going forward right now, they can't afford to be paying their backup QB $15M when they have Wilfork, Seymour and Mankins they have to think about extending to sizable contracts. How would that fly in negotiations if they aren't offering them top dollar?
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:50 PM   #87
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The funny thing about this thread is that in 2 year's if cassle bust Gochiefs and sensiblechiefsfan
wont ever come back in here or post on the subject at all spineless homers.....
Hey, I may be wrong, but I own up to what I make a mistake on.

The reality is that Pioli knows Cassel as well as anyone. McDaniels also knows Cassel.... and McDaniels sabotaged his own QB situation in an effort to get him.

Oh, and if you watched him in the Minnesota game, you saw what the Chiefs saw. Mobility and smart decisions.

Time will tell. I will own up to it regardless of how it turns out.
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I probably wouldn't want to put too much stock from a goon that writes his so-called expert analysis from a (sounds of it) gay porn website.

I mean, what the **** is a "AskMen.com" anyways?

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The reason Cassle is number 1 on that list is becuase if he fail's Scott Pioli wold literally have set the chiefs franchise back 5-10 years.
I don't know about that.. 1-3 years at most..

The only bad part of the Cassle ordeal is giving him the money so early.. We should have waited until half way into the regular season.. Trading a 2nd, I am fine with.. Though I would have rather had one of the two first QB's selected this past draft..

And it is funny that Cassel is ahead of:

Winslow being traded for a 2nd and 5th plus new contract.,,
Delhomme being given the contract at his age..
Stallworth, sorry but the legal system failed on the punishment..
Cutler ordeal in Denver and soon to be Marshall deal..

Seems to me the guy just set up the points on a dart board and picked rank from there..
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The reason Cassle is number 1 on that list is becuase if he fail's Scott Pioli wold literally have set the chiefs franchise back 5-10 years.
It's a 6 year deal with guarantees that make the first 3 years the tough years to eat. This team could draft a QB following next season if they felt the need to, and they'd be able to work around the contract issues, assuming the new CBA is similar to the one currently in place.
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