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Old 08-26-2009, 02:11 PM  
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Top 10: Regrettable NFL Offseason Decisions

No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel

A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for.

Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law.

The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt.

He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon.

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html

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Old 08-28-2009, 02:46 PM   #271
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i dont think you actually compensate for angle
Sure you do. A football field is 53 1/3 yards wide.

A 10-yard completion to the middle of the field is a much easier throw than a 10-yard out to the sideline. The sideline throw travels a much greater distance...
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Old 08-28-2009, 02:50 PM   #272
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I would not describe that as a "zipped" ball. It is arced. The initial angle of ascent is about 30 degrees. Cutler, Elway, JaMarcus, they can throw those FLAT.
JaMarcus Yeah, perhaps we should have traded for that dude, because he can "throw a flat ball."
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:08 PM   #273
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JaMarcus Yeah, perhaps we should have traded for that dude, because he can "throw a flat ball."


Not much matters if the big uglies on the other team's defense blow right by the offensive line...

It matters more, too, when its a rookie or young kid QB. If you look at who had success and who didn't, the OL plays a big variable. Big Ben started his rookie year with 3 OL Pro Bowlers in Marvel Smith, Faneca, and Hartings. Culpepper had 4 OL Pro Bowlers, Moss and Carter, and Robert Smith when he started. Dave Carr had no protection, as a good example of the reverse.

Fix the OL first. THEN get the rookie QB. The Colts learned from Jeff George, who had no protection at all. When Peyton was picked, Tarik Glenn and the other OT - Meadows - were already there. Ryan Leaf did not enjoy such protection, but had other problems too...
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:11 PM   #274
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Sure you do. A football field is 53 1/3 yards wide.

A 10-yard completion to the middle of the field is a much easier throw than a 10-yard out to the sideline. The sideline throw travels a much greater distance...
I can't believe that was questioned.
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Sure you do. A football field is 53 1/3 yards wide.

A 10-yard completion to the middle of the field is a much easier throw than a 10-yard out to the sideline. The sideline throw travels a much greater distance...

Yes, indeed, we can agree about that. Anyone want a lesson on "hypotenuse" measure??
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:15 PM   #276
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Yes, indeed, we can agree about that. Anyone want a lesson on "hypotenuse" measure??
Well let's see....47 yards on one side, 27 yards on the other (Cassel is in the middle of the field), what's the other side come out to?

Once we know that we can determine the velocity of the throw and convert to mph and compare to MLB...

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I can't believe that was questioned.
so you would say that ball was a 50 yard throw?
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:18 PM   #278
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Sure you do. A football field is 53 1/3 yards wide.

A 10-yard completion to the middle of the field is a much easier throw than a 10-yard out to the sideline. The sideline throw travels a much greater distance...
i get that. but is that how the nfl or anyone else measures the throw?
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so you would say that ball was a 50 yard throw?
I haven't followed the thread.

I just noticed that you don't understand basic math.
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:20 PM   #280
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i get that. but is that how the nfl or anyone else measures the throw?
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i get that. but is that how the nfl or anyone else measures the throw?
Not for statistical purposes.

But for real-world purposes, sure.
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I haven't followed the thread.

I just noticed that you don't understand basic math.
you ****ing idiot i understand math. next time you should follow the thread before saying stupid shit
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Not for statistical purposes.
thank you. now that was a 40 yard throw in the air. from the 47 to the 7
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thank you. now that was a 40 yard throw in the air. from the 47 to the 7
Only for statistical purposes.

The actual length of the throw was closer to 50 yards.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/mthrighttri.html

48.2 if we assume Cassel is standing 27 yards from the sideline and the ball travels from the 47 to the 7.
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Only for statistical purposes.

The actual length of the throw was closer to 50 yards.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/mthrighttri.html

48.2 if we assume Cassel is standing 27 yards from the sideline.
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