Chiefs Overall Evaluation of our 2009 Draft picks. - Page 5

**the Talking Can** · 09-02-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Like I said before...
They basically bought a Lamborghini without insurance or a car alarm.

It's not about what happens three years from now. It's about the team consciously making a decision to do nothing to protect their major investment now. Because in game 1, I don't care if Cassel performs or doesn't perform. What scares the shit out of me is an o-linemen missing his block and ending Cassel's season.

actually, they bought an empty warehouse and then discovered it was a chemical dumping ground....

they didn't do nothing, it's just that the something they did hasn't worked out...plus, they're making difficult long term decisions - trading tony, moving to a 3-4 - which have negative short term effects....but we've been begging for this for a decade and now before we've played a single game people are already in the buyers remorse stage...i personally finding it baffling

there is no smooth, clean, easy way to rebuild this shit hole of a franchise

and while everyone is busy dancing around Cassel's grave and talking about how shitty our drafts picks are and how awesome everyone elses are, how about we actually let the season happen...you know, the future, that thing that hasn't happened yet contrary to most people's belief...

the sheer volume of "me too"-ism on this board once cassel tweaked a knee - gasp! and flowers is injured too, if only we drafted a backu...wait - has been both hilarious and frankly depressing...

TEX · 09-02-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't think many are saying that.

Most of us, however, are saying that the 4th and 5th round picks could have been used more effectively, and that there were free agents that also could have been persued.

This.

Mecca · 09-02-2009, 08:17 PM

You have to realize how much money you can account to each position in the cap era, if you have 2 first round OT's odds are you are overpaying for the position and you will lose one because as soon as that RT's contract is up..especially if he was taken top 5 he'll leave cause another team will offer him more than you can pay.

**DeezNutz** · 09-02-2009, 08:18 PM

If Steve Hutchinson is available, you take him.

Mecca · 09-02-2009, 08:34 PM

Most people think the Giants have the best OL in the league they have exactly 0 first round picks on it.

TFG · 09-02-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Most people think the Giants have the best OL in the league they have exactly 0 first round picks on it.

It is amazing the job they have done. Snee, McKenzie, and now Beatty are SEconds, but still. WHEW. I never thought O'Hara was anything more than a street caliber FA. Seubert too. Deihl gets beat in pass protection but is just great at run blocking. The way they work as a unit is just awesome. I still don't think any of them as individuals are really that good.

Mecca · 09-02-2009, 08:37 PM

I'll tell you not using any mid round picks on the OL is a mistake in my view.

WildTurkey · 09-02-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'll tell you not using any mid round picks on the OL is a mistake in my view.

oh absolutely, especially over Magee or Washington

Mecca · 09-02-2009, 08:42 PM

Maybe it's just me but there are numerous positions I'd never use 1st round picks on unless I had 0 needs or the guy was a once in a generation player.

**Buehler445** · 09-02-2009, 08:49 PM

You won't give it up will you? WTF dude?

Here's the bottom line. Serviceable RTs are found LOTS of places in addition to the top of the draft. Bottom of the first, midrounds, free agency....Just because the Chiefs did not utilize these OTHER places absolutely positively DOES NOT mean that they should have used the mother****ing THIRD OVERALL PICK ON A RIGHT ****ING TACKLE.

Tyson Jackson was going to go top 10. Monroe went 8th AS A LEFT TACKLE not as a RIGHT TACKLE. Please for the love of **** tell me you know the difference between a right and left tackle....PLEASE?

Fact is that left tackles get paid SIGNIFICANTLY more than right tackles. SIGNIFICANTLY. Tack on there that Albert and Monroe would have come due within a year of each other. Monroe will want to be paid like a left tackle. Are you really going to plow 100M into 2 tackle positions?

**** it. I went at this blockhead all day yesterday and he's still hammering away.

WildTurkey · 09-02-2009, 08:49 PM

Don't get me wrong, I would love a great RT right now, I just don't want one in the first round with the number 3 pick.... The Chiefs were in a shitty position last year, the only real choices at that pick were Raji and Jackson and that's a toss up in my book. If you could find a stop gap FA(which we haven't) for this season and then address the RT with one of our second round picks next year than that would be perfect

TFG · 09-02-2009, 08:49 PM

To you, McSUK is a "serviceable" ORT.

**Buehler445** · 09-02-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG

To you, McSUK is a "serviceable" ORT.

To who? Me? I've been wanting Taylor to go in for McIntosh since LAST PRESEASON. Taylor is better at what McIntosh does than McIntosh is.

milkman · 09-03-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG

To you, McSUK is a "serviceable" ORT.

To me, that makes you a ****ing idiot, and destrroys any credibility you might have had.

But then, that's just me, dumbass.

Mecca · 09-02-2009, 08:50 PM

It might be worth it if you had money to burn and thought there was going to be no cap.

09-02-2009, 08:17 PM	#3
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	You have to realize how much money you can account to each position in the cap era, if you have 2 first round OT's odds are you are overpaying for the position and you will lose one because as soon as that RT's contract is up..especially if he was taken top 5 he'll leave cause another team will offer him more than you can pay.
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09-02-2009, 08:34 PM	#5
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	Most people think the Giants have the best OL in the league they have exactly 0 first round picks on it.
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09-02-2009, 08:37 PM	#7
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	I'll tell you not using any mid round picks on the OL is a mistake in my view.
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09-02-2009, 08:42 PM	#9
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	Maybe it's just me but there are numerous positions I'd never use 1st round picks on unless I had 0 needs or the guy was a once in a generation player.
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09-02-2009, 08:49 PM	#10
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1675266	You won't give it up will you? WTF dude? Here's the bottom line. Serviceable RTs are found LOTS of places in addition to the top of the draft. Bottom of the first, midrounds, free agency....Just because the Chiefs did not utilize these OTHER places absolutely positively DOES NOT mean that they should have used the mother**ing THIRD OVERALL PICK ON A RIGHT **ING TACKLE. Tyson Jackson was going to go top 10. Monroe went 8th AS A LEFT TACKLE not as a RIGHT TACKLE. Please for the love of ** tell me you know the difference between a right and left tackle....PLEASE? Fact is that left tackles get paid SIGNIFICANTLY more than right tackles. SIGNIFICANTLY. Tack on there that Albert and Monroe would have come due within a year of each other. Monroe will want to be paid like a left tackle. Are you really going to plow 100M into 2 tackle positions? ** it. I went at this blockhead all day yesterday and he's still hammering away.
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09-02-2009, 08:49 PM	#11
WildTurkey I'm done Chiefs, Go Pack Go Join Date: May 2009 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $10004900	Don't get me wrong, I would love a great RT right now, I just don't want one in the first round with the number 3 pick.... The Chiefs were in a shitty position last year, the only real choices at that pick were Raji and Jackson and that's a toss up in my book. If you could find a stop gap FA(which we haven't) for this season and then address the RT with one of our second round picks next year than that would be perfect
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09-02-2009, 08:49 PM	#12
TFG Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	To you, McSUK is a "serviceable" ORT.
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09-02-2009, 08:50 PM	#15
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	It might be worth it if you had money to burn and thought there was going to be no cap.
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