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Old 09-02-2009, 04:04 PM   #1
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:05 PM   #2
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I will never get our fan base that if you talk about how you don't like something that is the response you get.

Our forum is turning into the coalition or WPI.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:10 PM   #3
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I will never get our fan base that if you talk about how you don't like something that is the response you get.

Our forum is turning into the coalition or WPI.
Dude, NO team has exclusively smart fans. 99% of fans are go-tards.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:13 PM   #4
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Sure, and for the most part this board was fine for awhile but this offseason turned us into 90% coalition where no one wants to express an opinion that isn't positive and even people who disagree saying things like "I'll default to Pioli"
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:14 PM   #5
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I will never get our fan base that if you talk about how you don't like something that is the response you get.

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First off, this thread is silly: it's WAY too early to evaluate this draft.

What I don't get is how someone can post "Face it: There was a gross misjudgment of talent, both on the Chiefs existing roster and in the 2009 NFL Draft." If you're a Chiefs' fan, why post negative crap on something like this? There's other legit things to bitch about. Whatever. It's obvious that the "glass is half empty" crowd is here to stay.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:15 PM   #6
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First off, this thread is silly: it's WAY too early to evaluate this draft.

What I don't get is how someone can post "Face it: There was a gross misjudgment of talent, both on the Chiefs existing roster and in the 2009 NFL Draft." If you're a Chiefs' fan, why post negative crap on something like this? There's other legit things to bitch about. Whatever. It's obvious that the "glass is half empty" crowd is here to stay.
The premise of the thread is stupid, but um dude when the team is coming off a 2-14 season fans have a right to be negative.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:18 PM   #7
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The premise of the thread is stupid, but um dude when the team is coming off a 2-14 season fans have a right to be negative.
New owner, new GM, new coach. Hard for me to hold them accountable for the Peterson/Edwards two year abortion.
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New owner, new GM, new coach. Hard for me to hold them accountable for the Peterson/Edwards two year abortion.
Sure but they can be held accountable for moves they made this offseason, which right now doesn't look like anything to thrilling.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:27 PM   #9
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Sure but they can be held accountable for moves they made this offseason, which right now doesn't look like anything to thrilling.
WTF? You don't build Rome in a day. And not one regular season game has been played yet. And to dismiss the draft is nothing more than taking a negative position. It's a pose. I'm not saying Pioli is infallible. But $hit, the guy has a pedigree worthy of a little patience. If you're going to bitch, make it a legit bitch. That's all I'm saying.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:35 PM   #10
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Sure but they can be held accountable for moves they made this offseason, which right now doesn't look like anything to thrilling.

It is all about "opportunity cost." Granted, Pioli and Haley were handed a pretty sorry roster. The biggest "beefs" are

1. Why the "urgent need" to switch to 3-4 when most of the DLs and LBs on the roster were much better suited for 4-3? Hilariously enough, Oracle Bill has the Pats fiddling with a 4-3, precisely because Mayo is the ultimate 4-3 MLB (and Tedy was letting it be known he may decide to not play this year). I particularly question why it was necessary to not offer Jason Babin even a one year minimum deal to stay. Babin had clearly "failed" as a 3-4 OLB. In the final two or three games last year, Babin's light seemed to go from total darkness to flicker. Because the existing DLs were more 4-3 than 3-4, that appears to have "forced" the pick of T-Jax (and perhaps Magee). OPPORTUNITY COST - Eugene Monroe.

2. The trade for Cassel and getting the "young QB of the future" before the OL was fixed.

3. The picks after Magee in the Draft are, in my opinion, particularly disappointing. The best player the Chiefs landed this offseason after Magee was Darryl Harris, and that was pure luck, as the GM assumes "try out players" are not even worthy of camp fodder status. This Draft had some serious players late and undrafted besides Harris, and I think Pioli really whiffed on all of them (exclude Lawrence, as I have not watched him).
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New owner, new GM, new coach. Hard for me to hold them accountable for the Peterson/Edwards two year abortion.
I've been pretty vocal about how much I hate Carl Peterson, and was very excited to get Pioli.

But we have to be careful not to give Pioli a free ride just because he's not Carl Peterson. I agree with the direction he's taking the defense, but I think he made a very costly error on the offensive side and I have a feeling that he knows it.
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I've been pretty vocal about how much I hate Carl Peterson, and was very excited to get Pioli.

But we have to be careful not to give Pioli a free ride just because he's not Carl Peterson. I agree with the direction he's taking the defense, but I think he made a very costly error on the offensive side and I have a feeling that he knows it.
Now I can get onboard with this. Why pay Cassel the mad $$ and stick him behind an o-line with a crumbling right side? Legit question. Thank you.
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Not sure what you mean. Hopefully, your sarcasm meter is working.
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Not sure what you mean. Hopefully, your sarcasm meter is working.
I believe it is and he's calling you out for your exceptionally shallow opinion.

Just because Pioli and Haley think something, that doesn't make it right. Nor does it mean that anyone that opposes them is incorrect.

You just dropped the ultimate in Bush-league, copout responses.
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I believe it is and he's calling you out for your exceptionally shallow opinion.

Just because Pioli and Haley think something, that doesn't make it right. Nor does it mean that anyone that opposes them is incorrect.

You just dropped the ultimate in Bush-league, copout responses.
Wasn't a copout. If you got something to be negative about, then fine. But to summarily dismiss nearly the entire 2009 draft at this point is unnecessary and stupid. And my opinion isn't shallow. Look in the mirror, friend.
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