Chiefs I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today. - Page 13

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-27-2009, 02:27 PM

With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.

**petegz28** · 09-27-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

The right 53 probably means players that don't **** up constantly. Don't **** up and you don't get yelled at.

I learned that fairly quickly in USMC boot camp

Pretty much how I see it.

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Change is one thing.

Not realizing how bad our offensive line was until the 3rd game in the preseason is inexcusable.

Ndukwe, Alleman and O'callaghan are not good linemen. They were the best we could get because we sat on our hands so long. The point is that we had a bunch of much better options earlier in the preseason, but for whatever reason, the front office didn't make it a priority.

I think that goes back to what I said though..

They had the 3rd pick and they were making a move for Cassel they blew their signing bonus cash on those 2 players.

The Chiefs don't go big market and drop 100 mill on bonuses in 1 year.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-27-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Change is one thing.

Not realizing how bad our offensive line was until the 3rd game in the preseason is inexcusable.

Ndukwe, Alleman and O'callaghan are not good linemen. They were the best we could get because we sat on our hands so long. The point is that we had a bunch of much better options earlier in the preseason, but for whatever reason, the front office didn't make it a priority.

This.

It's unfathomable to me that the "Executive of the Decade" has been so bad at talent evaluation over the past 9 months.

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

In other words...we can't read the future, we asked for change, got it and are now pissed?

When you trade for a guard then make him a tackle it's pretty obvious what is going to happen.

**DeezNutz** · 09-27-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

In other words...we can't read the future, we asked for change, got it and are now pissed?

We asked for improvement, not change. **** man. Come on.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-27-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think that goes back to what I said though..

They had the 3rd pick and they were making a move for Cassel they blew their signing bonus cash on those 2 players.

The Chiefs don't go big market and drop 100 mill on bonuses in 1 year.

While that might be true, the upgrades that were available could have been signed for peanuts (especially through the draft). That might explain why they didn't go after Olshansky and Canty. But it doesn't explain the o-line.

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This.

It's unfathomable to me that the "Executive of the Decade" has been so bad at talent evaluation over the past 9 months.

I'm going to say it now, you were right.

Marcellus · 09-27-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Change is one thing.

Not realizing how bad our offensive line was until the 3rd game in the preseason is inexcusable.

Ndukwe, Alleman and O'callaghan are not good linemen. They were the best we could get because we sat on our hands so long. The point is that we had a bunch of much better options earlier in the preseason, but for whatever reason, the front office didn't make it a priority.

I don't think not making it a priority is the reason. I think they mis-evaluated what we had which is a big mistake and I won't argue that. I don't think they thought these guys would be top notch, I think they were banking on servicable until they had time to get what they wanted.

As long as they don't repeat the mistake, which the last regime did for a while, I can live with it. They do it again and that's another issue.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-27-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

In other words...we can't read the future, we asked for change, got it and are now pissed?

Not at all.

I think most people would have expected the "Executive of the Decade" to bring someone in that is an upgrade before cutting someone loose.

Mac caught a lot of shit on this board, but he's a ****ing All-Pro compared to Ndukwe.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-27-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We asked for improvement, not change. **** man. Come on.

This

JFC.

This place has ****ing become reerunCentral.com lately.

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

While that might be true, the upgrades that were available could have been signed for peanuts (especially through the draft). That might explain why they didn't go after Olshansky and Canty. But it doesn't explain the o-line.

Well a guy like Jason Brown signed with the Rams because of how much money he got there.

Marcellus · 09-27-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm going to say it now, you were right.

You guys state the team was untaleneted last year going into this year and now you expect them to do a 180 in 1 offseason.

Your geniuses.

**petegz28** · 09-27-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We asked for improvement, not change. **** man. Come on.

Imrpovement and change go hand in hand. McSacintosh wasn't cutting it. So you have to make a change and hope for improvment. If we don't improve we repeat the process until we do.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-27-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm going to say it now, you were right.

About?

htismaqe · 09-27-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, when that same head coach is also calling the plays, he needs to keep his shit together.

There's no way in the world he can be an effective playcaller if he's constantly consumed by rage.

He wasn't consumed by rage today. He actually kept it in check VERY well.

09-27-2009, 02:27 PM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today. With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win. That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life. I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game. My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders. It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.
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