Chiefs I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today. - Page 21

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-27-2009, 02:27 PM

With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.

**Smed1065** · 09-27-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.

Idiot. Smell my socks.

Did I idiot?

My soXCKs R GREAT!

**Smed1065** · 09-27-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You should be chemically neutered.

YES YOU ARE THE DECIDER!

lol

azzhole.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-27-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065

Idiot. Smell my socks.

Did I idiot?

My soXCKs R GREAT!

Can't argue with that.

**Bowser** · 09-27-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Can't argue with that.

It's like looking at a chaos math formula.

**Bugeater** · 09-27-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065

Idiot. Smell my socks.

Did I idiot?

My soXCKs R GREAT!

On second thought, go ahead and ignore everything I said in that other thread.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-27-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

It's like looking at a chaos math formula.

WildTurkey · 09-27-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065

Idiot. Smell my socks.

Did I idiot?

My soXCKs R GREAT!

Post of the Year

Chieficus · 09-27-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Jesus ****ing Christ.

Not one person, not ****ing one person on this board thought this could be turned around in a year. Stop with this ****ing bullshit.

The criticism doesn't stem from the fact that we're 0-3 this year, it stems from the fact that even their initial choices and styles to "plug the dam" have been gross miscalculations or outright failures.

That doesn't portend well for the future. You can't win with 53 Terrance Coppers, no matter how much you want to. You can't draft counter to the available talent in the draft and expect to get good players, or good value.

You can't ignore the biggest weakness on your team, and then forfeit draft choices so that you can shuffle the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Good god, man. Get ****ing real.

Dude, calm down... seriously: it's football, not worth having a stroke over.

The point of my post was that they did not ignore the biggest weakness on this team because darn near every position on the entire team was it's biggest weakness.

Is the OL crap? Yeah. Have their temp fixes for it turned out to be crap as well? Yeah. But in that amazing record-setting sackless season last year, the DL and LB corps were just as crappy. When your QB's were Thigpin, Huard, and a guy who might have potential but he can't seem to keep off of IR, then that position was pretty much crap as well.

You start somewhere--they went defense and QB with a change of scheme and the use of their 1st 3 draft picks. Unless you can woo the right FA's, that doesn't leave you much to spend on fixes elsewhere.

Start where you can, see what you have, then continue fixing when the next year rolls around... that's all I'm saying.

Raptor · 09-27-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

This is a game where we were horribly outmatched. It reminds me of the Eagles game several years ago when we played without Roaf.

I'm not too upset at Haley for the way the game was coached. I'm upset that his players still make boneheaded mistakes. But the playcalling is fine. There's nothing you can do when on every pass play, at least two pass rushers are getting to Cassel unblocked.

I'm more pissed at Pioli for not realizing this was a problem sooner. Haley is doing the best he can with what he was given.

That being said, this is an interesting test for Haley. Yellers and screamers have a hard time yelling, when players don't buy into what you're selling. It reminds me of when Coughlin was almost ousted several years ago.

Couldn't agree more.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2009, 05:53 PM

Is Smed Christopher Titus' Inner reerun?

milkman · 09-27-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

On second thought, go ahead and ignore everything I said in that other thread.

I think we should posrep bomb that drunken bastard.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieficus

Dude, calm down... seriously: it's football, not worth having a stroke over.

I'm not having a stroke. Me saying "Jesus ****ing Christ" is like a weatherman saying "cumulus". Get used to it.

The point remains, that last year was the perfect year to need to rebuild the OL due to the depth in the draft. And what did they do? Jack and ****.

That doesn't bode well for the future.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-27-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieficus

Dude, calm down... seriously: it's football, not worth having a stroke over.

The point of my post was that they did not ignore the biggest weakness on this team because darn near every position on the entire team was it's biggest weakness.

Is the OL crap? Yeah. Have their temp fixes for it turned out to be crap as well? Yeah. But in that amazing record-setting sackless season last year, the DL and LB corps were just as crappy. When your QB's were Thigpin, Huard, and a guy who might have potential but he can't seem to keep off of IR, then that position was pretty much crap as well.

You start somewhere--they went defense and QB with a change of scheme and the use of their 1st 3 draft picks. Unless you can woo the right FA's, that doesn't leave you much to spend on fixes elsewhere.

Start where you can, see what you have, then continue fixing when the next year rolls around... that's all I'm saying.

And bringing in a $60M QB who can't protect and who can't operate in a real offense because you don't have the pass protection to open up the playbook is a huge mistake.

Pioli had to start somewhere. Unfortunately, he decided it didn't have to start on the offensive line, the foundation of a good football team. A good offensive line would ahve done wonders for Cassel in his development.

Jerm · 09-27-2009, 05:57 PM

Just coming into this thread...don't think Haley has lost the players or anything like that but if I'm being honest, he looks like a guy who is WAY in over his head right now.

I think he can right the ship but he just has that look at times like "what the hell did I get myself into?"

Titty Meat · 09-27-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm not having a stroke. Me saying "Jesus ****ing Christ" is like a weatherman saying "cumulus". Get used to it.

The point remains, that last year was the perfect year to need to rebuild the OL due to the depth in the draft. And what did they do? Jack and ****.

That doesn't bode well for the future.

But Scott Pioli and Clancy Pendgergast. Pendergast is good he got the Arizona Cardinals to the super bowl and there talent isn't much better than the Chiefs/ Chiefsplanet

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SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today. With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win. That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life. I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game. My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders. It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.
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Jerm Mahomes > God Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $4378996	Just coming into this thread...don't think Haley has lost the players or anything like that but if I'm being honest, he looks like a guy who is WAY in over his head right now. I think he can right the ship but he just has that look at times like "what the hell did I get myself into?"
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