Who to draft in 2010

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie

For all the talk of position value last year with Curry and then eventually Jackson, why does it seem like some of the same people are petitioning for Mays and Berry? Has the following been said here?

You just don't take a safety in the top 5. JFC. Do you realize you are potentially guaranteeing more than double the amount of guarantees set in the current contracts of Sanders, Reed, and Polamalu?/CP draft expert

I know they are playmakers but.....

Because the value, and perception of the safety position is changing. We are watching the evolution of the way that position is looked at in todays NFL. They are going to begin being drafted higher, and paid more. People are starting to recognize their value, and impact on the game. Todays safeties are becoming huge playmakers, and are moving into the realm of game changers.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Because the value, and perception of the safety position is changing. We are watching the evolution of the way that position is looked at in todays NFL. They are going to begin being drafted higher, and paid more. People are starting to recognize their value, and impact on the game. Todays safeties are becoming huge playmakers, and are moving into the realm of game changers.

"Playmaker" is in the eye of the beholder. If KC had a RT who could neutralize a guy like Kiwanuka/Tuck for an entire game, why isn't he a "playmaker"?

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

"Playmaker" is in the eye of the beholder. If KC had a RT who could neutralize a guy like Kiwanuka/Tuck for an entire game, why isn't he a "playmaker"?

a RT doing his job, is not a Gamechanger.
Yes, we need a RT very badly, but the only reason we value a RT so much is because ours are just flat out horrible. A good one should not be very hard to find. We just didn't address it hard enough.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

a RT doing his job, is not a Gamechanger.
Yes, we need a RT very badly, but the only reason we value a RT so much is because ours are just flat out horrible. A good one should not be very hard to find. We just didn't address it hard enough.

If you could leave that RT alone on an island for an entire game against someone like Tuck, how is he not a gamechanger? You don't have to worry about protection as much, you can run behind him, you don't have to have a TE help him, you don't have to have a HB chip him. It completely opens up your offense to do more.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If you could leave that RT alone on an island for an entire game against someone like Tuck, how is he not a gamechanger? You don't have to worry about protection as much, you can run behind him, you don't have to have a TE help him, you don't have to have a HB chip him. It completely opens up your offense to do more.

I agree with you, but guys like Polomalu, Reed, B. Sanders, get your offense the ball back, and make huge plays, and are a hell of a lot harder to find than a good RT.
Don't think I'm downplaying the importance of a good RT. I'm really not. I'm just saying that I would be cool with them taking Berry with a top 5. I would not be cool with them taking a RT that high. Yeah, when we played the Giants, they have a good pass rusher on the Ds Left side, but most teams only have a premier pass rusher, on their right.
Now if Albert doesn't improve, I would be cool with taking a LT that high, and putting Albert at RT or guard.
IF....he doesn't get better at LT that is.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

I agree with you, but guys like Polomalu, Reed, B. Sanders, get your offense the ball back, and make huge plays, and are a hell of a lot harder to find than a good RT.
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They get the ball back to the offense, but if the offense is going 3 and out, it doesn't do much good.

I'm not saying take a RT with a top 5 pick. Hell, I'd love Berry. Sign me up right now for Berry in the first, and I think I'd be happy. I just disagree with what people deem a "playmaker", and I see a little bit of the change in attitude with regard to who you should take with a top 5 pick in the draft from last year to this year with the draft gurus.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Because the value, and perception of the safety position is changing. We are watching the evolution of the way that position is looked at in todays NFL. They are going to begin being drafted higher, and paid more. People are starting to recognize their value, and impact on the game. Todays safeties are becoming huge playmakers, and are moving into the realm of game changers.

This is a fair argument. With Reed, Sanders, and Polamalu all making impact on championship teams it looks like it may have influenced the Draft in 06 and 07. Huff, Whitner, Allen, Landry, Griffin, Nelson, and Meriweather were all picked relatively high though just 3 of them went in the top 15. However if you look at the last two drafts--though maybe thin at Safety--only Kenny Phillips went in the first round as the 31st pick. I don't see enough evidence in this trend to really change my argument