Chiefs LJ on the hot seat? - Page 3

MGRS13 · 10-05-2009, 06:09 PM

AFC West hot seat
October 5, 2009 11:00 AM

Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson

We’re putting Larry Johnson on the hot seat.

And it wouldn’t be a surprise if the Chiefs do as well. If the team sees a viable alternative option (likely Jamaal Charles), Johnson could be in danger of losing his job.

He had 53 yards on 18 carries in a Kansas City loss to the Giants. Johnson has 189 yards on 72 carries so far this season, which is only 2.6 yards an attempt.

He's not getting great blocking from his weak offensive line, but Johnson, who turns 30 next month, isn’t creating many plays at all. If he continues to offer little, the hot seat will only get hotter.
Uncategorized, Kansas City Chiefs, Jamaal Charles, Larry Johnson

TEX · 10-05-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I have no idea why you keep defending LJ so much??

But hes neither as bad as most on here make him out to be or as good as you wish he was.

Hes just average. Not his fault, but he makes waaay too much money to be average.

He's "average" because his OL is way below average. LJ can still play, it's his OL that can't.

**Skip Towne** · 10-05-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I have no idea why you keep defending LJ so much??

But hes neither as bad as most on here make him out to be or as good as you wish he was.

Hes just average. Not his fault, but he makes waaay too much money to be average.

2.6 ypc is not average, it s out of the league. Mike Cloud numbers

milkman · 10-05-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

I supported LJ this whole offseason and hes not done crap so far. I really believe Charles would offer more to this offense than LJ.

I think Charles would be slightly more productive.

However, I'm not sure the marginal improvement in production would out weigh the potential fumbles lost.

MGRS13 · 10-05-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I think Charles would be slightly more productive.

However, I'm not sure the marginal improvement in production would out weigh the potential fumbles lost.

Our RB's=Our WR's=we are fuct.

milkman · 10-05-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

Yeah, if we just subtract his negative yards, he's an all-pro!

Also sad this was his "best" game in Week 4 and this is all we get.

He's a lazy broken vagina at this point, fitting for that "diamond cutter" sign he likes to flash, which might as well be a giant vag.

Claythan is right though.

LJ was having his best game of the season, but even I can't blame him for not doing anything on those draws.

Even Barry Sanders couldn't have done anything in those situations where the LBs were there as he was getting the handoff.

MGRS13 · 10-05-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Claythan is right though.

LJ was having his best game of the season, but even I can't blame him for not doing anything on those draws.

Even Barry Sanders couldn't have done anything in those situations where the LBs were there as he was getting the handoff.

The O line is with out a doubt effecting LJ, really on offense who isn't it effecting? LJ is just the only one who is going to have a verbal breakdown in public about it.

Molitoth · 10-05-2009, 08:23 PM

Everytime LJ gets the ball, the Defense knows he is getting it. Not only that, but our offensive line just lets them right through.

I don't really EXPECT LJ to put up any good numbers. The playcalling and team coming out of KC right now is a total joke.

I agree that the chiefs need a more agile type of RB right now, and I want to see LJ suceed on another team. I hope he goes for the betterment of both sides.

patteeu · 10-05-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

I am left wondering after yesterday what exactly it was LJ was trying to pounce on the ground. He'd take two steps and dive at something on the ground. Was like my lab puppy when I throw a doggy treat in the grass. WTF was on the ground that would make a Pro Bowl RB quit running and just dive for the turf? He did it over 5 times!!!

I've been very critical of LJ for a couple of years now. As recently as the Baltimore game, I was convinced that LJ was a lost cause. But I've seen more effort from him in the last two games (Oakland and NYG, I didn't see the Philly game) than I've seen in a while. The dives you are talking about were examples of LJ taking a couple of extra yards at the end of each run that he hadn't been getting before. He was going down either way, it's just a matter of trying to get a couple extra or letting himself be taken backward instead. I agree with GoChiefs on this one.

milkman · 10-05-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

He's "average" because his OL is way below average. LJ can still play, it's his OL that can't.

No.

He's an average back on the downside of his career.

He's never really had any vision or patience.

And he longer punishes when he does get into the second level like he did in his two good years.

keg in kc · 10-05-2009, 08:31 PM

It's not an either/or thing, he's lost two steps and he's playing behind a turd of a line. Suck + suck = doublesuck.

Ugly Duck · 10-05-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I have no idea why you keep defending LJ so much??... he makes waaay too much money to be average.

Yeah, but he's a loyal Chief:

ESPN: LJ throws the Chiefs under the bus

http://espn.go.com/nfl/

CaliforniaChief · 10-05-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I think Charles would be slightly more productive.

However, I'm not sure the marginal improvement in production would out weigh the potential fumbles lost.

Exactly. Charles KNOWS he has to hold on to the football and he can't do it. Why? Probably because he's not physically strong enough to take a beating on a play to play basis.

Charles would have been a better option on those delay draws though.

10-05-2009, 06:09 PM
MGRS13 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Home in KC Casino cash: $10074930	LJ on the hot seat? AFC West hot seat October 5, 2009 11:00 AM Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson We’re putting Larry Johnson on the hot seat. And it wouldn’t be a surprise if the Chiefs do as well. If the team sees a viable alternative option (likely Jamaal Charles), Johnson could be in danger of losing his job. He had 53 yards on 18 carries in a Kansas City loss to the Giants. Johnson has 189 yards on 72 carries so far this season, which is only 2.6 yards an attempt. He's not getting great blocking from his weak offensive line, but Johnson, who turns 30 next month, isn’t creating many plays at all. If he continues to offer little, the hot seat will only get hotter. Uncategorized, Kansas City Chiefs, Jamaal Charles, Larry Johnson
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10-05-2009, 08:23 PM	#37
Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $164969	Everytime LJ gets the ball, the Defense knows he is getting it. Not only that, but our offensive line just lets them right through. I don't really EXPECT LJ to put up any good numbers. The playcalling and team coming out of KC right now is a total joke. I agree that the chiefs need a more agile type of RB right now, and I want to see LJ suceed on another team. I hope he goes for the betterment of both sides.
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10-05-2009, 08:31 PM	#40
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	It's not an either/or thing, he's lost two steps and he's playing behind a turd of a line. Suck + suck = doublesuck.
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