Chiefs Cassel - yards per pass attempt. - Page 4

Chiefnj2 · 10-06-2009, 10:50 AM

Per Greg Easterbrook TMQ: "Matt Cassel, who recently signed one of the richest contracts in football history, averaged 2.4 yards per pass attempt on 32 throws."

Wow, that's horrible. If a receiver were to catch a ball on the LOS and just fall down (body extended) they'd pick up 2 yards. Haley might want to work on longer pass patterns.

Hammock Parties · 10-06-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

Everyone said we didn't have the talent last year either until Gailey switch up the systems. Then our offense suddenly became average.

You can "make do" and not be sucking shit like we are now.

Well, we did have 400 yards against the Raiders.

Even last year's infamous spread got shut down at times against good defenses.

Sucking shit against New York, Baltimore and Philly is probably not too much cause for alarm...I'll be pretty concerned if they are this bad against San Diego.

Gravedigger · 10-06-2009, 01:16 PM

So lets say you have about 5 guys who can't block 5 other guys who are paid to hit you, ya know hypothetically speaking lets call this game Football, just throwing it out there. Logic would show that you have to get rid of the ball fast, where would you throw your ball in the 2 seconds and 3 to 5 steps that you have? Do you honestly expect the recievers to be much more than 10 yards down field in that matter of time?

The only thing this stat says to me is that our offensive line sucks so Cassel has to do alot of dinking and dunking, screens and slants because he doesnt have the time a Brett Favre has. And since we all knew that our Oline has been terrible for the past 4-5 years this post is bringing nothing new to the board that we haven't been talking about.

FAX · 10-06-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

... Haley is overwhelmed ...

I think this is a very true statement. Haley is starting to look like somebody takes him out behind the shed every afternoon and beats him with a 2x4.

I believe his heart is in the right place ... he desperately wants to win and has high standards. He did, however, vastly underestimate the demands associated with serving as both HC and OC ... let alone QB coach. Big mistake.

FAX

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-06-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

The only thing this stat says to me is that our offensive line sucks so Cassel has to do alot of dinking and dunking, screens and slants because he doesnt have the time a Brett Favre has.

It's more than that Cassel doesn't have confidence to throw the ball past 10 yards for example look at the end of the 1st half in the raider game he should've taken a shot for the endzone or filed it out of bounds.

bobbything · 10-06-2009, 01:20 PM

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For example, in this past game, I noticed a lot of instances where the situation might be, say, 3rd-and-7, and Cassel threw a 2-yard pass and the guy got slammed to the ground, resulting in 4th-and-5 and a punt. Now, was that Haley and the coaches' fault, because that was the play call? Was it the receiver's fault, for running too short of a route? Was it Cassel's fault, for not finding the downfield option and checking down too soon to a guy who Cassel should've known was well short of the 1st-down marker? Was it the fault of the O-line or TE or other players, who didn't follow the play and provide downfield blocking?

Yes.

Rooster · 10-06-2009, 01:21 PM

KC receivers can only run 2.4 yards before the O-line fails.

Mr. Laz · 10-06-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I think this is a very true statement. Haley is starting to look like somebody takes him out behind the shed every afternoon and beats him with a 2x4.

I believe his heart is in the right place ... he desperately wants to win and has high standards. He did, however, vastly underestimate the demands associated with serving as both HC and OC ... let alone QB coach. Big mistake.

FAX

This might be another reason why Pioli didn't go big in free agency. Not only are they evaluating existing talent,switching all the coaches and transitioning to new systems on both sides of the LOS but they have a n00b Head Coach who is learning his way during his first year.

I don't think you want some big time veteran free agents coming in and wondering "WTF" when all this transition is going on.

Mr. Laz · 10-06-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster

KC receivers can only run 2.4 yards before the O-line fails.

when you only throw the ball when you HAVE TO it doesn't help.

ChiefsCountry · 10-06-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

This might be another reason why Pioli didn't go big in free agency.

Chiefs blew their wad of cash on Cassel. Plain and simple.

Chiefnj2 · 10-06-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster

KC receivers can only run 2.4 yards before the O-line fails.

If they could run 2.4 yards and then fall forward, they will double their yards per pass attempt.

Chiefnj2 · 10-06-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

So lets say you have about 5 guys who can't block 5 other guys who are paid to hit you, ya know hypothetically speaking lets call this game Football, just throwing it out there. Logic would show that you have to get rid of the ball fast, where would you throw your ball in the 2 seconds and 3 to 5 steps that you have? Do you honestly expect the recievers to be much more than 10 yards down field in that matter of time?

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At the combine LB's are supposed to have a 2.75 second 20 yard split. I presume KC receivers could cover around 20 yards before the 3 seconds Cassel has to throw the ball.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-06-2009, 01:38 PM

We should throw the ball as far as we can on every play for one full game just to get the leagues attention and then the next game make every offensive play a handoff up the middle. Then teams will get frustrated watching game film on us and not know what to expect.

htismaqe · 10-06-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

It's more than that Cassel doesn't have confidence to throw the ball past 10 yards for example look at the end of the 1st half in the raider game he should've taken a shot for the endzone or filed it out of bounds.

Yep. I wasn't completely obvious until the Philly game for me, but Cassel looks absolutely frightened out there at times.

FAX · 10-06-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

This might be another reason why Pioli didn't go big in free agency. Not only are they evaluating existing talent,switching all the coaches and transitioning to new systems on both sides of the LOS but they have a n00b Head Coach who is learning his way during his first year.

I don't think you want some big time veteran free agents coming in and wondering "WTF" when all this transition is going on.

I've thought of that. I'm not sure that's the reason we didn't aggressively go after better talent this year, though.

My take is that everybody knew that this season was going to be very rough but, unfortunately, they really couldn't evaluate our roster until we had a training camp and some games under our belt.

Planeteers haven't talked about it much, but Pioli has. He's mentioned it several times ... stating that he needs to find guys who have talent but also "respond" to the coaches (meaning Haley), or words to that effect. I don't think they knew which current players were going to "respond", so the strategy was to more or less hold pat until the smoke clears and they can see the picture more clearly.

Of course, that theory gives Pioli the benefit of the doubt that, after watching film, he knew we were horrible.

FAX

JD10367 · 10-06-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Chiefs blew their wad of cash on Cassel. Plain and simple.

Huh? Isn't KC, like, $876 million under the cap or something, to the point where they actually got penalized monetarily for being too low-spending?

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